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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:25 AM
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My engine oil cooler lies flat parallel to the ground in the middle valence panel, behind the plate. The Indy Car spoiler is right behind it. Works great there. Oil stays very cool.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:34 AM
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Since that spot has already been taken. I guess you could try it. Although, I have heard that the evaporator makes a good cooler. Since you have done away with the a/c you wont be needing that either. You might be able to make some brackets and put it in front on your radiator.
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FRSTR90, think microwaves, diffraction and reflection of, and what kind of microwaves an over-exuberant driver may be threatened by. Passive measure too, so there's no FCC issues. I'm curious enough to know if it has a measurable impact on range that this item (with certain mods) will be facing tests against a Stalker K-band I have access to. Not sure when, tho. BTW, the Mythbusters have no clue on this stuff.

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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Since that spot has already been taken. I guess you could try it. Although, I have heard that the evaporator makes a good cooler. Since you have done away with the a/c you wont be needing that either. You might be able to make some brackets and put it in front on your radiator.
I just bolted the AC condenser back in it's stock location. Looks like is was born there, because it was.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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BJ: You have avery clean ride.
Will your spoiler fit on my 74?
What wheels and tires do you run, any problems?
Do you run spacers/adapters?
Is there room to go bigger, 255/40/18- 275/40/19?
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Taijutsu
BJ: You have avery clean ride.
Will your spoiler fit on my 74?
What wheels and tires do you run, any problems?
Do you run spacers/adapters?
Is there room to go bigger, 255/40/18- 275/40/19?
Thanks man. Those are C5 Z06 replicas. Right now it's 9.5x17s w/275/40-17s up front and 9.5x18s w/275/40-18s out back. I've since modified my rear sway bar, and plan to mount my 10.5x18 wheels with 295/35-18s out back. I'm just waiting for an affordable pair of 295/35-18 tires to come my way. I refuse to pay $300 for a tire. I use 2.5" adapters all around, but the rear sway bar had to be modded. Click on my pictures to see how I did it.
I have the factory optional flexible 3 piece Indy Pace Car front and rear spoiler and I believe it will bolt to any 74-79.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Has anyone tried a panel, molded or flat to cover the undercarriage of the car to improve aerodynamics? Several manufacturers - VW, Porsche, Merecedes Benz have used this on differing models. It's aerodynamic improvement or hide oil leaks.

Anyway, there are a lot of areas that are rough and disturb airflow that could be smoothed by a plates on the underside of the car.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RadicalPursuit
Has anyone tried a panel, molded or flat to cover the undercarriage of the car to improve aerodynamics? Several manufacturers - VW, Porsche, Merecedes Benz have used this on differing models. It's aerodynamic improvement or hide oil leaks.

Anyway, there are a lot of areas that are rough and disturb airflow that could be smoothed by a plates on the underside of the car.
I like the idea, but keep it in prospective of the goal. If you want real aero improvements, first order of business is to reduce the amount of air which gets beneath the body to begin with, making an air dam an obvious requirement. Next is to evacuate hot engine compartment air efficiently. (The air dam helps that too, but so would larger vents aft of the front wheel wells.) Then cleaning up the belly would be more worth going to the trouble. (It should go without saying that the underside should be level or slightly raked.) If you want to go that far, address the air trapped in the wheel wells and ahead of the rear bumper. (Yes, I'm talking more holes in your bodywork.) Don't forget a diffuser. Skirts, but only if air is attempting to enter from the sides, as you wouldn't want to trap air trying to escape. (Anyone done any tuft tests for that?) Such a project could get quite involved, no? How far do you want to take it?

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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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I had the same idea to do this to my '02 Yukon XL about a month ago. To test I put blue painter's tape over the whole front grill and drove home from Kansas to Texas (6 hours). I averaged 2 mpg better with the tape. I do this everytime I drive back and forth from school now.
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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
I like the idea, but keep it in prospective of the goal. If you want real aero improvements, first order of business is to reduce the amount of air which gets beneath the body to begin with, making an air dam an obvious requirement. Next is to evacuate hot engine compartment air efficiently. (The air dam helps that too, but so would larger vents aft of the front wheel wells.) Then cleaning up the belly would be more worth going to the trouble. (It should go without saying that the underside should be level or slightly raked.) If you want to go that far, address the air trapped in the wheel wells and ahead of the rear bumper. (Yes, I'm talking more holes in your bodywork.) Don't forget a diffuser. Skirts, but only if air is attempting to enter from the sides, as you wouldn't want to trap air trying to escape. (Anyone done any tuft tests for that?) Such a project could get quite involved, no? How far do you want to take it?
I agree on two points. When I buy my fiberglass high rise hood, I will put some heat extractors, I really like the new Vipers, in it. Also, I recently had the rear bumper off to remove the 55lb battering ram. That rear bumper is like a big parachute. There should be a way to release the air under the car thru the bumper. They used to make grills to cover the rear tailights, maybe something like that, or something like the vents on the C5 and C6.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CrossedFlags77
I had the same idea to do this to my '02 Yukon XL about a month ago. To test I put blue painter's tape over the whole front grill and drove home from Kansas to Texas (6 hours). I averaged 2 mpg better with the tape. I do this everytime I drive back and forth from school now.
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Bee Jay, I'm sure you're more familiar than I am about prancing horses. Isn't there a model or two that the whole tail is just basically one big open grill with the taillights and tag hung in it?
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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
Bee Jay, I'm sure you're more familiar than I am about prancing horses. Isn't there a model or two that the whole tail is just basically one big open grill with the taillights and tag hung in it?
You are prolly talking about the F40, but the 355 Challenge also had a grill for the tail panel. Even my 348 has a vent above the liscence plate. But the engine and mufflers and cats are all back there, it's to vent the engine compartment heat.

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