VBP Front Mono Spring Conversion......
Limping across the line
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From: Peoria Az
Pattie, something I 'd like to see VPandB offer is some tubular lower arms that will go with your Front monospring.
Anther question I have is, can I use Del-alum bushings on my(your) A arms?
After installing Poly bushings during resto's on a couple of musclecars. I will not use them again.
BTW thanks for the info and feedback Krystal
Anther question I have is, can I use Del-alum bushings on my(your) A arms?
After installing Poly bushings during resto's on a couple of musclecars. I will not use them again.
BTW thanks for the info and feedback Krystal
Safety Car
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From: St Petersburg FL
St. Jude Donor '07,'13
New Tubular Lowers
Our lower arms with the spring are still in the box-tube design and not the newest all tubular design similar to my new uppers. I hope that we can have some new lowers next year. It will be more involved to come up with because it has the bracket and spring, but I will keep nagging production and R&D to get moving on it. I did get my C-5 brake upgrade finally (been asking for three years now). We can now put C-5's on the front of a C-3. I will be posting a pic of the kit and formally introducing it on the forum within the next couple of weeks. I think it is really an awesome package for all those 17" wheels out there 
Pattie
VBP
I am sorry you did not like the poly bushings. I will check with Gary about whether you can use those others. Have you tried our poly?
Pattie
VBP
I am sorry you did not like the poly bushings. I will check with Gary about whether you can use those others. Have you tried our poly?
Racer
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From: Lavonia Georgia
Head-on pic please...
Krystal,
If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the front end from ground level about 10 feet or so out? I've been interested in this mod for a while, but it always looks like there might be 'stuff' hanging down from the front end when you're done. Even in your middle pic, it looks like the end of the spring is close to the ground, but from that angle it's tough to tell.
I get nervous when important suspension parts are hanging down and vulnerable...maybe it's just me. I've always wanted to see what it really looks like from head on before I make the plunge. Any pic's you can provide would be helpful. If you'd rather PM them, that's cool too. Thanks,
If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the front end from ground level about 10 feet or so out? I've been interested in this mod for a while, but it always looks like there might be 'stuff' hanging down from the front end when you're done. Even in your middle pic, it looks like the end of the spring is close to the ground, but from that angle it's tough to tell.
I get nervous when important suspension parts are hanging down and vulnerable...maybe it's just me. I've always wanted to see what it really looks like from head on before I make the plunge. Any pic's you can provide would be helpful. If you'd rather PM them, that's cool too. Thanks,
Pro
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From: SLC, UT USA
Pattie, something I 'd like to see VPandB offer is some tubular lower arms that will go with your Front monospring.
Anther question I have is, can I use Del-alum bushings on my(your) A arms?
After installing Poly bushings during resto's on a couple of musclecars. I will not use them again.
BTW thanks for the info and feedback Krystal
Anther question I have is, can I use Del-alum bushings on my(your) A arms?
After installing Poly bushings during resto's on a couple of musclecars. I will not use them again.
BTW thanks for the info and feedback Krystal
As for the Del-alum bushings, I tried to use those but for some reason they would not fit the new VB&P A arms. Seems the VB&P A arms use their own special size of bushing. But that was 15 years ago?
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: westland mi
Krystal,
If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the front end from ground level about 10 feet or so out? I've been interested in this mod for a while, but it always looks like there might be 'stuff' hanging down from the front end when you're done. Even in your middle pic, it looks like the end of the spring is close to the ground, but from that angle it's tough to tell.
I get nervous when important suspension parts are hanging down and vulnerable...maybe it's just me. I've always wanted to see what it really looks like from head on before I make the plunge. Any pic's you can provide would be helpful. If you'd rather PM them, that's cool too. Thanks,
If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the front end from ground level about 10 feet or so out? I've been interested in this mod for a while, but it always looks like there might be 'stuff' hanging down from the front end when you're done. Even in your middle pic, it looks like the end of the spring is close to the ground, but from that angle it's tough to tell.
I get nervous when important suspension parts are hanging down and vulnerable...maybe it's just me. I've always wanted to see what it really looks like from head on before I make the plunge. Any pic's you can provide would be helpful. If you'd rather PM them, that's cool too. Thanks,
Racer
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Wellington Florida
Our front TVL system comes with our ball joints and poly bushings installed. Our bushings will improve your handling as they react quicker at the pivot points as well as lasting alot longer than the stock rubber bushings that bind.
If you match the lowers with our uppers, you can increase the weight savings as well as improve the handling even more. Our upper control arms have the same poly bushings installed and come with our offset cross shafts. Along with the offset shafts, we have relocated the ball joints to allow up to 5 degrees of positive caster and a greater camber adjustment range to improve the handling and road tracking.
As far as the weight savings go, the stock control arms weigh about 15 lbs. each. Our first re-design, our box tube style, weighs 8.3 lbs. each. New for 2007, we have introduced our newest redesign, our tubular style which weighs 5.6 lbs. each with steel offset cross shafts or 4.2 lbs. with aluminum offset cross shafts. All come pre-assembled to bolt right in. They come powder coated black as standard, but for a small upcharge, you can choose red, yellow or our newest color a shiny pewter.
The front coil springs weight 20 lbs. for the pair and the fiberglass spring only weighs about 10 lbs.
With our new tubular uppers (with steel shafts) and our box tube lowers with our fiberglass spring, you can save up to 30 to 40 lbs.
If you have any questions or would like to discuss our new tubular style or have us email you a pic, please contact me directly at pattie@vbandp.com or call toll free at 1-800-237-9991.
Thanks for all the good comments and Krystal, your Corvette looks great!!!!
Pattie
VBP
If you match the lowers with our uppers, you can increase the weight savings as well as improve the handling even more. Our upper control arms have the same poly bushings installed and come with our offset cross shafts. Along with the offset shafts, we have relocated the ball joints to allow up to 5 degrees of positive caster and a greater camber adjustment range to improve the handling and road tracking.
As far as the weight savings go, the stock control arms weigh about 15 lbs. each. Our first re-design, our box tube style, weighs 8.3 lbs. each. New for 2007, we have introduced our newest redesign, our tubular style which weighs 5.6 lbs. each with steel offset cross shafts or 4.2 lbs. with aluminum offset cross shafts. All come pre-assembled to bolt right in. They come powder coated black as standard, but for a small upcharge, you can choose red, yellow or our newest color a shiny pewter.
The front coil springs weight 20 lbs. for the pair and the fiberglass spring only weighs about 10 lbs.
With our new tubular uppers (with steel shafts) and our box tube lowers with our fiberglass spring, you can save up to 30 to 40 lbs.
If you have any questions or would like to discuss our new tubular style or have us email you a pic, please contact me directly at pattie@vbandp.com or call toll free at 1-800-237-9991.
Thanks for all the good comments and Krystal, your Corvette looks great!!!!
Pattie
VBP
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Krystal,
If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the front end from ground level about 10 feet or so out? I've been interested in this mod for a while, but it always looks like there might be 'stuff' hanging down from the front end when you're done. Even in your middle pic, it looks like the end of the spring is close to the ground, but from that angle it's tough to tell.
I get nervous when important suspension parts are hanging down and vulnerable...maybe it's just me. I've always wanted to see what it really looks like from head on before I make the plunge. Any pic's you can provide would be helpful. If you'd rather PM them, that's cool too. Thanks,
If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the front end from ground level about 10 feet or so out? I've been interested in this mod for a while, but it always looks like there might be 'stuff' hanging down from the front end when you're done. Even in your middle pic, it looks like the end of the spring is close to the ground, but from that angle it's tough to tell.
I get nervous when important suspension parts are hanging down and vulnerable...maybe it's just me. I've always wanted to see what it really looks like from head on before I make the plunge. Any pic's you can provide would be helpful. If you'd rather PM them, that's cool too. Thanks,
No way can I give you a picture as clean as the one above. Anyone wants the underside of my car to shine like that will need to come up here to paint and spit polish things under there.
At the risk of putting up a picture that makes my car look like a WRECK in comparison........but still interested in helping you get an idea of the clearances......here is a better picture of the passenger side again taken from the the opposite side of the car. Might give you more of the view you're looking for.
I could take a head on picture but really the car is so low now that the spoiler blocks the shot you're looking for here. For what it's worth though we discussed this too before deciding to do it.The headers, oil pan and exhaust pipes under the rear gears all hang lower than this new spring does.
BTW- I think I could get a couple of Coke cans under there to look as good as "rosslato"..........but that's probably about it.
Last edited by Krystal; Jun 15, 2007 at 01:36 AM.
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From: Forked River NJ
I did get my C-5 brake upgrade finally (been asking for three years now). We can now put C-5's on the front of a C-3. I will be posting a pic of the kit and formally introducing it on the forum within the next couple of weeks. I think it is really an awesome package for all those 17" wheels out there
Pattie
VBP
Pattie
VBP
One more thing in the VB cataolg to spend money on. I think I have just about everything for a C3 on my car from VB. Can't miss out on this one!BTW I have done the front mono spring and dual mount rear also. Great upgrade. Ride is much improved and I can set it on very firm when needed. Mine is not as clean as the one above either but my clearance is about the same as his.
Last edited by Gordonm; Jun 15, 2007 at 05:06 AM.
Safety Car
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From: San Diego CA
WOW!!!!!
No way can I give you a picture as clean as the one above. Anyone wants the underside of my car to shine like that will need to come up here to paint and spit polish things under there.
At the risk of putting up a picture that makes my car look like a WRECK in comparison........but still interested in helping you get an idea of the clearances......here is a better picture of the passenger side again taken from the the opposite side of the car. Might give you more of the view you're looking for.
I could take a head on picture but really the car is so low now that the spoiler blocks the shot you're looking for here. For what it's worth though we discussed this too before deciding to do it.The headers, oil pan and exhaust pipes under the rear gears all hang lower than this new spring does.
BTW- I think I could get a couple of Coke cans under there to look as good as "rosslato"..........but that's probably about it.
No way can I give you a picture as clean as the one above. Anyone wants the underside of my car to shine like that will need to come up here to paint and spit polish things under there.
At the risk of putting up a picture that makes my car look like a WRECK in comparison........but still interested in helping you get an idea of the clearances......here is a better picture of the passenger side again taken from the the opposite side of the car. Might give you more of the view you're looking for.
I could take a head on picture but really the car is so low now that the spoiler blocks the shot you're looking for here. For what it's worth though we discussed this too before deciding to do it.The headers, oil pan and exhaust pipes under the rear gears all hang lower than this new spring does.
BTW- I think I could get a couple of Coke cans under there to look as good as "rosslato"..........but that's probably about it.
Instructor
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Milwaukie OR
AARrrrrggggggg! OK I admit it I want it, I need it, but I can't afford it!
ok maybe I can, lets see hmmmmm I ain't all that fond of food anyhoo!
Patti, need a deal here Hun, make it happen!
BTW loved the brake calipers I got...can u upgrade my '02 Silverado?
ok maybe I can, lets see hmmmmm I ain't all that fond of food anyhoo!
Patti, need a deal here Hun, make it happen!
BTW loved the brake calipers I got...can u upgrade my '02 Silverado?
Racer
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Lavonia Georgia
). Also, now that I see how it all mounts up, if you hit something hard enough to hurt something in that setup, suspension damage may be the least of your worries. 
And I'm impressed with your weight saving efforts, too! I never thought I'd see the front end of a C3 so light you could balance it on two aluminum Coke cans!
Racer
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From: Lavonia Georgia
WOW!!!!!
No way can I give you a picture as clean as the one above. Anyone wants the underside of my car to shine like that will need to come up here to paint and spit polish things under there.
At the risk of putting up a picture that makes my car look like a WRECK in comparison........but still interested in helping you get an idea of the clearances......here is a better picture of the passenger side again taken from the the opposite side of the car. Might give you more of the view you're looking for.
I could take a head on picture but really the car is so low now that the spoiler blocks the shot you're looking for here. For what it's worth though we discussed this too before deciding to do it.The headers, oil pan and exhaust pipes under the rear gears all hang lower than this new spring does.
BTW- I think I could get a couple of Coke cans under there to look as good as "rosslato"..........but that's probably about it.
No way can I give you a picture as clean as the one above. Anyone wants the underside of my car to shine like that will need to come up here to paint and spit polish things under there.
At the risk of putting up a picture that makes my car look like a WRECK in comparison........but still interested in helping you get an idea of the clearances......here is a better picture of the passenger side again taken from the the opposite side of the car. Might give you more of the view you're looking for.
I could take a head on picture but really the car is so low now that the spoiler blocks the shot you're looking for here. For what it's worth though we discussed this too before deciding to do it.The headers, oil pan and exhaust pipes under the rear gears all hang lower than this new spring does.
BTW- I think I could get a couple of Coke cans under there to look as good as "rosslato"..........but that's probably about it.
Besides, if you just keep slapping on new mods, sooner or later you'll replace everything dirty under there and voila!...a clean undercarriage!
Safety Car
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From: St Petersburg FL
St. Jude Donor '07,'13
Hi IRISH69427, glad the info. helped.
DSAGERS, our control arms use the stock size bushings. At least I know they have for the last 6 years that I have been here. Maybe the bushings you got were not the stock size. We have our bushings, our poly, still hand poured to our specs, but they are supposed to be for the stock size. The same goes for my trailing arms, they are the same size as stock, just in our poly. I will have to check on that for you.
DRAGONRACER - which part are you asking about. The front TVL?
Send me an email direct to Pattie@VBandP.com and let me know which part you are interested in.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT WEEKEND!!!
Pattie
VBP
DSAGERS, our control arms use the stock size bushings. At least I know they have for the last 6 years that I have been here. Maybe the bushings you got were not the stock size. We have our bushings, our poly, still hand poured to our specs, but they are supposed to be for the stock size. The same goes for my trailing arms, they are the same size as stock, just in our poly. I will have to check on that for you.
DRAGONRACER - which part are you asking about. The front TVL?
Send me an email direct to Pattie@VBandP.com and let me know which part you are interested in.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT WEEKEND!!!
Pattie
VBP
Drifting
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From: Columbus MN
Krystal,
If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the front end from ground level about 10 feet or so out? I've been interested in this mod for a while, but it always looks like there might be 'stuff' hanging down from the front end when you're done. Even in your middle pic, it looks like the end of the spring is close to the ground, but from that angle it's tough to tell.
I get nervous when important suspension parts are hanging down and vulnerable...maybe it's just me. I've always wanted to see what it really looks like from head on before I make the plunge. Any pic's you can provide would be helpful. If you'd rather PM them, that's cool too. Thanks,
If you get a chance, could you post a pic of the front end from ground level about 10 feet or so out? I've been interested in this mod for a while, but it always looks like there might be 'stuff' hanging down from the front end when you're done. Even in your middle pic, it looks like the end of the spring is close to the ground, but from that angle it's tough to tell.
I get nervous when important suspension parts are hanging down and vulnerable...maybe it's just me. I've always wanted to see what it really looks like from head on before I make the plunge. Any pic's you can provide would be helpful. If you'd rather PM them, that's cool too. Thanks,
There were a lot of questions about clearances a while back - headers, traction bar, dual exhausts, MONOSPRING, etc. I had them all and I have a lift with a cross platform on rollers, so I could measure from anything on the car to approximately road level. (Add 1/4 - 1/2 inch.) BTW, if my monospring mounts hit, I'm going to have worse damage in another place or two.
Safety Car
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From: San Diego CA
Considering the spring is RIGHT between the wheels, that's pretty much the least likely place to hit something, unless you bottom out the spring.
Places most likely to hit stuff and need ground clearance are right behind the wheels.
Places most likely to hit stuff and need ground clearance are right behind the wheels.
The ORIGINAL and bestest
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From: Toronto Ontario
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I did get my C-5 brake upgrade finally (been asking for three years now). We can now put C-5's on the front of a C-3. I will be posting a pic of the kit and formally introducing it on the forum within the next couple of weeks. I think it is really an awesome package for all those 17" wheels out there
Pattie
VBP
Pattie
VBP
Pattie, please give us more details!!!
Intermediate
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From: Connecticut
Too much good info and feedback on the VPB mono springs lately. I broke down and bought the 42000 kit this afternoon, front and rear rebuild, the whole enchilada. Hope to see a nice big box of goodies for my 71 soon!
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......why? Little dirt never hurt anybody.........and this car is driven. Not so often in the rain, in fact almost never but unfortunately it did rain the day of this picture and it was taken immediately after returning from the alignment appointment and an hour of trying the parts out on some pretty wet roads.
Nothing wrong with those links.......they are solid and the bushings are in good shape.
Mechanically the car is close to perfect, it's full time garaged and only very part time driven, it gets a coat of wax twice a year but it's no trailer queen. It's driven and things like sway bar links will reflect that fact.
Melting Slicks
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From: westland mi