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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Went to change the diff oil ' but am i missing somthing. like a drain plug? 80 vette!
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you're not missing anything. there is no drain plug. you either have to take the diff cover off, or use a pump to suck the oil out. i recommend pumping it out, as it is much easier than taking the cover off.
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There's another way. Tap a hole in the bottom of the assembly and install the proper sized plug (bolt). This will make future drains a breeze. See below:


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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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i just did this and used a suction pump from autozone that cost about $6....it worked great. be sure to use the posi additive when you go to fill it up
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There's another way. Tap a hole in the bottom of the assembly and install the proper sized plug (bolt). This will make future drains a breeze. See below:


Nice job there Jud. The few times that I have seen this mod, never has it been done where you have put it. Nice work. Got any idea what size tap and plug you used to perform this job. This could be a nice little winter project for some one.
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That could be a "R" size drill and a 1/8th pipe tap. Then a 1/8th pipe plug to close things up. With a battery drill, go right in with the oil still in the rear. The oil coming out will flush the chips out after you drill and tap it.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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QUOTE=kanngaroo jack;1561008884]Went to change the diff oil ' but am i missing somthing. like a drain plug? 80 vette![/QUOTE]
You have some good advice in the posts above. Maybe I can add something useful. Gary, grt1999 has everything you need to know in his Differential Rebuild post. I can't recall all the details, but i have installed drain plugs in two of my differentials. Below is a pic of the first:
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All the parts were purchased from Lowe's and readily available. I think the sleeve was 3/8 and the removable drain plug was 1/8. Both pieces are in close proxmity bins, so you can check them for compatability. You will need to buy a NPT tap, as the 3/8 sleeve is on a taper. When you cut the threads, be careful you don't go too deep. Monitor the sleeve dept as you go, or the sleeve will rise above the differential floor and prevent all the oil from draining. After you buy the parts look for the correct NPT tap and it should tell you the correct drill bit diameter. The job is relatively easy after you assemble all the parts and tools.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie 70
Nice job there Jud. The few times that I have seen this mod, never has it been done where you have put it. Nice work. Got any idea what size tap and plug you used to perform this job. This could be a nice little winter project for some one.
I wish I could take credit for the job. Actually what happened, though, was I took my '76 in to a Vette shop for a rear fluid change back in the 70's and they said that is the way they did them all. I don't know the exact bolt size but I don't think it really matters...it's probably 1/4 inch or so. The mechanic just drilled a hole where you see it and of course all the fluid came out along with any metal residue from the bit. He then tapped it and installed the proper sized bolt. It really works great. I showed this once before here and some of the guys were talking about dropping the rear to do it, but I really think that's a waste of time and energy. Try it and I'm sure you'll like it.
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I've been told that drilling a hole in the differential casing weakens it and then it is prone to crack. I don't think GM is that stupid and would have put one in if it didn't compromise the strength and integrity of the casing --- but I could be wrong. I will continue to vacuum the differential oil out when it needs to be changed--- which happens once every 10 or 15 years
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They don't put drains in tranny sheet metal pans either.

It's probably a money thing.
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Originally Posted by happiedazs
I've been told that drilling a hole in the differential casing weakens it and then it is prone to crack. I don't think GM is that stupid and would have put one in if it didn't compromise the strength and integrity of the casing --- but I could be wrong. I will continue to vacuum the differential oil out when it needs to be changed--- which happens once every 10 or 15 years
I just did mine with 1/4 NPT on advise from the best in the business. I asked the question on the case weekening and he said that he has not had a problem. This mod has been done for many, many years. I am changing my ratio whch requires an oil change after the 500 mile break-in.

I believe that using the vacuum pump gets a lot out of the diff., but leaves the heavy stuff, including any metal particles in the diff. Just my .02.

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They don't put drains in tranny sheet metal pans either.

It's probably a money thing.
My TH350 has one...
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Originally Posted by happiedazs
I've been told that drilling a hole in the differential casing weakens it and then it is prone to crack. I don't think GM is that stupid and would have put one in if it didn't compromise the strength and integrity of the casing --- but I could be wrong. I will continue to vacuum the differential oil out when it needs to be changed--- which happens once every 10 or 15 years

Mine was done over 30 years and 85k miles ago and is as good as when it was done.
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Originally Posted by noonie
They don't put drains in tranny sheet metal pans either.

It's probably a money thing.
When you change the tranny fluid you need to change the filter also so dropping the pan is understandable
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QUOTE=kanngaroo jack;1561008884]Went to change the diff oil ' but am i missing somthing. like a drain plug? 80 vette!
You have some good advice in the posts above. Maybe I can add something useful. Gary, grt1999 has everything you need to know in his Differential Rebuild post. I can't recall all the details, but i have installed drain plugs in two of my differentials. Below is a pic of the first:
[IMG][IMG][/IMG][[/IMG]
All the parts were purchased from Lowe's and readily available. I think the sleeve was 3/8 and the removable drain plug was 1/8. Both pieces are in close proxmity bins, so you can check them for compatability. You will need to buy a NPT tap, as the 3/8 sleeve is on a taper. When you cut the threads, be careful you don't go too deep. Monitor the sleeve dept as you go, or the sleeve will rise above the differential floor and prevent all the oil from draining. After you buy the parts look for the correct NPT tap and it should tell you the correct drill bit diameter. The job is relatively easy after you assemble all the parts and tools.[/QUOTE]
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Red 69
QUOTE=kanngaroo jack;1561008884]Went to change the diff oil ' but am i missing somthing. like a drain plug? 80 vette!
You have some good advice in the posts above. Maybe I can add something useful. Gary, grt1999 has everything you need to know in his Differential Rebuild post. I can't recall all the details, but i have installed drain plugs in two of my differentials. Below is a pic of the first:
[IMG][IMG][/IMG][[/IMG]
All the parts were purchased from Lowe's and readily available. I think the sleeve was 3/8 and the removable drain plug was 1/8. Both pieces are in close proxmity bins, so you can check them for compatability. You will need to buy a NPT tap, as the 3/8 sleeve is on a taper. When you cut the threads, be careful you don't go too deep. Monitor the sleeve dept as you go, or the sleeve will rise above the differential floor and prevent all the oil from draining. After you buy the parts look for the correct NPT tap and it should tell you the correct drill bit diameter. The job is relatively easy after you assemble all the parts and tools.[/QUOTE]
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But, if it was easier to change the tranny fluid, most folks would do it oftener, and the filter wouldn't need to be changed as often since a good portion of the glop would get drained out, RIGHT?
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But, if it was easier to change the tranny fluid, most folks would do it oftener, and the filter wouldn't need to be changed as often since a good portion of the glop would get drained out, RIGHT?

The drain plug in the transmisison pan is just an easy way to get the fluid out so dropping the pan isn't so messy. I do it to all of my transmission pans.

As far as the rear end plug, it's a good idea that even the good rear end rebuilders suggest. It will even allow for a flush to be used to get the thick sludge out before you fill with clean fluid.

I think I would drill and tap for a magnetic oil pan drain plug, to help keep any metal from floating around.
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