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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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Tried this thread on "General" forum and was told to get manuals. As I responded over there, I live in Florida where it rains whenever, and wanted to get my wipers working pronto.

Thanks for any assistance!!

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Hey everyone,

Just registered after spending A LOT of time on the site gleaning bits (and stacks) of wisdom from some Vette Masters.

I just got my '82 Vette this weekend, and here are a few issues I need help with (Please?!): (By the way, I know some of the questions are going to sound silly, but I've been looking for a good manual here in town for two days. No Chilton, Haynes didn't have the diagrams I needed.)

1. My wipers don't work at all. I was glad to hear there was part of the wiper system behind the seats, 'cause I thought I was losing my marbles when I heard a clicking when trying to turn them on.
Does anyone have a wiring diagram of wipers? Where the heck is the fuse? Which leads me to-

2. Does anyone have a picture of the '82 fuse box. I need to know what leads to what. I have already replaced most of the fuses, but wipers still don't work.

3. No power steering. Where do I begin to look after fluid and belt?

4. A saw a thread yesterday about a member regretting he had a cross-fire engine. My Vette is no screamer either. What would you wizened ones suggest? Upgrade chip, new exhaust (love those side-pipes), or, if it's even possible, a new intake manifold with a good old Holley on top.

I believe that's it (for now )

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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Welcome to the forum. First, I'll say that looking for help from a Chilton's or Haynes will just not cut it for most problems. I would suggest an AIM manual found through Mid America.

Wipers - It may not be a fuse. A few other problems could be the motor and the switch. The first thing I would suggest is testing the motor to see if it functions. Do you have a multimeter? You'll want to test each terminal with the key on and off. The yellow is your IGN circuit so that one should be hot with the key. Make sure it's getting power when the key is on, when the switch is on, and that it has a good ground.

Crossfire engines have a lot of potential but like all engines it needs constant care and attention. You'll be pleasantly surprised with what you get out of a complete tuneup including timing the motor.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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I keep a Haynes manual around, because they do have some photographs that I find more helpful than some of the factory manual line drawings. The AIM and the factory service manual are invaluable. The Corvette Electrical Troubleshooting Manual, the Passenger Car wiring diagrams, and the Unit Overhaul Manual are also invaluable.

82 was after the switch to Corvette-only manuals, so it's possible that some of those above books were consolidated into the Corvette service manual. Helm still publishes the manuals, but I find that eBay is the best source - with a bit of looking around, you can get good condition manuals for low prices.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Here's a little update. There is some type of switch/connector for the wiper in front of the car jack which clicks each time it try the wipers. Also, there is a click in the wiper motor when I try to turn it on. My uneducated immediate guess would be the motor.

Grateful for any input.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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This may sound strange but at one time my wipers didnt work even tho I heard the click from somewhere in the car (behind the drivers seat?) what I found was that the wiper blades had gotten stuck on one another and would not move across the windshield. Strange because the last time I used the wipers they worked perfectly. Good Luck, Peace,,,Moosie
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TerrisMan
Here's a little update. There is some type of switch/connector for the wiper in front of the car jack which clicks each time it try the wipers. Also, there is a click in the wiper motor when I try to turn it on. My uneducated immediate guess would be the motor.

Grateful for any input.
The clicker behind the seat is the delay wiper controller.The controller is a relay attached to a circuit board.I have fixed a bunch of them by resoldering the circuit board.Sometimes you can see the bad connection on the board.I've seen a few bad dash switches but only 1 bad motor.If your good with a soldering iron get some electrical flux dab it on and start soldering.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Thanks big_G. That looks like it should cover everything!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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DWncchs;

Thanks for the tip. Not much at soldering though.

By the way, that delay wiper controller was laying on the bottom of the well there (apparently fallen out??) When I was looking at it, noticed the board seemed loose. Bet your right!

Thanks a bunch.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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i think i might have some 80 window wiper motors lying around somewhere if you want them, it might take me a day or two to find them and if you dont hear from me in 5 days, send a search party
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Hybrid 117,
Amazing thing yesterday. I was putzing around with the conncection to the wiper motor and the delay relays. When I fired it up, my wipers moved up about 2 inches. But that's all. Couldn't get them to duplicate, so I don't know if it was the motor or relay. Now if God will just let it rain on that 2 inch bit of coverage, I may be OK.
About those wiper motors, that sounds great (Ain't to proud to beg, as Mick would say). And if you don't return, should I call a search and rescue team or just skip right to the coroner? HA.

Thanks loads, man.

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Did you try turning wipers on and moving plugs on the motor and flexing the circuit board on the delay relay assembly?
You have the ground wire attached and the ground wire is grounded-correct?

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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So where is Shalimar? I am in Boca Raton and I have a book for my 81 that should match the 82 wipers, need help?
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Like stated above, the Crossfire can be a great engine, unfortunately for me, mine was a PITA to take care of and I wanted some power out of the motor. If you want power out of it, you need to replace the intake and get a carb, replace heads, and exaust (including headers) those are where to start. Welcome to the forums, have fun with the 82.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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If you want power out of it, you need to replace the intake and get a carb...
There are plenty of threads here discussing how to get plenty of power out of the CF injection system. One current thread shows how much the intake can and needs to be ported.

Heads, cam, exhaust...those are what really needs to be replaced.
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My wipers would stop working then about 10 minutes later start again.
I had a bad ground at the motor.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SIXFOOTER
So where is Shalimar? I am in Boca Raton and I have a book for my 81 that should match the 82 wipers, need help?
Shalimar is a sub-division of Fort Walton Beach. Thanks for your help!
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Did you try turning wipers on and moving plugs on the motor and flexing the circuit board on the delay relay assembly?
You have the ground wire attached and the ground wire is grounded-correct?
I tried moving the electrical plug with wipers on. Will check ground. Thanks a lot!
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Hello Terris and welcome. Here is the manual you need to have if you want to work on your 82. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-...spagenameZWDVW

The price is a bit high for this used manual though. I think I paid $19 for mine new. The other manuals are not good enough in my opinion.

Crossfire motors are a special breed all its own, but once you get it dialed in they will run great for a long time and are rather reliable. There are a few major areas that need to be addressed with a CF.

1) Fuel pressure is very critical on a CF motor. You must know what the FP is set to in order for the motor to run properly. The FP needs to be 14psi and the motor will run fine...No buts, its a fact with CFI. The GM manual says 9-13psi...NOPE! That doesn't work, trust me on this one.

2) Vacuum leaks are the big enemy of a CF motor. The top plate bolts will loosen and cause issues along with the TB bolts. No buts, its a fact with CFI. Another big area with CF is the TBs themselves. The TB shafts become worn generally at 50K miles and when worn causes a vacuum leak with erratic idle and poor performance. No buts, its a fact with CFI. This condition also makes it IMPOSSIBLE to balance the TBs which leads me to number three.

3) Balance the TBs is also another critical item. No buts, its a fact with CFI. The process isn't very hard, you just need patience and a little practice to get it right, thats another reason for getting the GM manual vs the others. You'll need a water manometer to balance the TBs as well or make one.

4) The CTS sensor in the front of the stock manifold is a major player on a CF motor as well. The sensor takes its ground through the block via the threads of the sensor. Over time, corrosion starts between the threads and and the block and changes resisitance values which causes issues with the readings the ECM gets and will cause the motor to run most of the time very rough and very rich when it shouldn't. The answer is to replace the CTS sensor with the newer two wire weather pack type and don't use Teflon tape on the threads.

5) Timing on a stock motor is 6* with the ETS wire removed. If you have a fair amount of miles on the car...over 75k or so, set it to 8* if the motor doesn't ping using Premium gas of course.

6) Last but not least...GROUNDS!! Grounds are key to a corvette no matter what year you have. They will cause a ton of issues if you have poor grounds. As they say..."You can never have enough grounds on a corvette". The best ground is from frame to block. I added three new grounds when I installed my new motor.

These are but a few of the things to do with a CFI motor and there are more tricks as well, like replacing the stock fuel pump with a 85-87 corvette pump which I didn't mention above.

If you would like more info on a CF, send me a PM and or visit the http://www.crossfire.homeip.net/ website. Hope I didn't scare you away from the CF. Most past owners of a CF that hated the car, just didn't know how to work on them correctly or didn't want to take the time to fix it, but thats just IMHO.

I have had my 82 CF for 13+ years and its a great car and even better with the 383 under the hood now and I'm still using the CFI on the top end and it keeps up with the newer C5 and C6s...LOL

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