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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Van Steel told me that it can't be done at home. Has anyone here accomplished this feat? what tools did you use?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Of course you can. You need to rent a set of tools and get a spindle overhaul kit at .... Under articles and tips it has the spindle rebuild step by step guide and if you want to return the tools afterwards you can.
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Van Steel told me that it can't be done at home. Has anyone here accomplished this feat? what tools did you use?
A proper tool kit for removal and set-up of the trailing arms will cost about $1200. You might check with International Axle & Manufacturing CO in Maple Grove Minnesota - they had a nice kit that I saw a few years ago at Bloomington Gold. (612) 428-5020.

Proper bearing set-up and minimizing brake disk run-out is critical to a satisfactory result. After fighting to get the trailing arms out of my 1980, I was more than happy to let someone else work on them for a while. LOL

BTW Van Steel did a great job on the TA and they were also very patient with all my questions. The Van Steel Suspension Video was also very helpful to me.

Given the cost of the tools, and the fact that I would not be using them very often, I decided it was better to let a pro do the work. I think, with the proper tools and enough trial and error, I could produce an acceptable result - it just wouldn't be cost effective for me.

I am sure there are others on the Forum that did their own TA rebuilds (and without special tools) - they will comment.
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$1200 is crazy. These tool sets can be purchased everywhere for less than $250.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Regardless of the price and availability of the proper tools (and the knowledge to use them), One must be a very qualified mechanic or machinist to tackle this job with long lasting results. I would also highly recommend Van Steel.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Moneywise and timewise, you are better off having them rebuilt by Van Steel, Bair's etc...
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Regardless of the price and availability of the proper tools (and the knowledge to use them), One must be a very qualified mechanic or machinist to tackle this job with long lasting results. I would also highly recommend Van Steel.
These tools are very simple and with a step by step guide and someone to call anyone can build a trailing arm. Dont let these people tell you it cant be done because my customers do it all the time and I will help you if you have any questions at all.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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I doubt Van Steel would outright say you cant rebuild yours at home. I rebuilt mine ok and the tools arent too expensive. Its pretty easy just time consuming and I dont know if Id have been able to get my spindles out without a press. I used Toms 30 spline spindles and didnt think ahead to the fact that they are way thicker than stock so regular shims wouldnt fit I posted here and someone gave me a link to mc master where I found the size I needed. To be honest if I lived in the US Id have had Van Steel do mine. Its cheaper and they have a great reputation for top notch work. Since I live in a 3rd world backwards pit I have to do everything myself. I got a quote today from the only sand blasting place in town for $550 to do my frame. Thats just to blast it nothing else.
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It's not that the tools are too complicated or expensive...it's the experience factor. Setting up the rear bearings properly is a chore. I farmed out the bearing setup to GTR1999, then reassembled the arms and pressed the bearings together myself. I hope I got it all right...
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Special tools: Bull Shot. Search GRT1999 for his post on this.
http://www.corvettemagazine.com/2002...garms/ta-1.asp
Just make sure you dont FU the threads on the spindles.
Cut half way thru the bearing race with a dremal tool and split with a cold chisle.
Take the bearings to a hardware store and get a piece o pipe to set the bearings.
While your in there replace the E Brake hard ware.
Just follow all the specs.
Plenty on info on doing this at home in this fourm and others.
PM me if you need other sites.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Van Steel told me that it can't be done at home. Has anyone here accomplished this feat? what tools did you use?


I chose to rebuild them myself for several reasons...
Shipping heavy objects back and forth across the border tends to be very expensive and time consuming
I like to learn how to work on all components on my car.
I will own this Vette until the day they bury me in it so it stands to reason the trailing arms will need rebuilding/greasing again before that time
Tight budget and prefer to do things myself.
Enjoy the great sense of accomplishment doing it myself

I purchased the tools and the manuals when I started my frame off and followed the many excellent posts on the subject
Tools: spindle knocker, shock mount removal tool, bearing setup tool, spindle install tool, dial indicator , rented 20 ton press
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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Did my own and so did my neighbor (using my tools).
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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I did my own, but it was an expensive learning experience. If I had known the amount of time and effort involved, I would have begged Gary or a vendor to do them.. I'm not sure I got THAT much satisfaction..

If you have time and patience, you can do them yourself..
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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All the info you need is on this forum,, just du a serch,,, you do not have to by special tools,,,well maybe one,, the bearing setting tool,, but its not expensive,,,you can farm out the bearing removal/disasembly to some one with a press,,go out and purchase a dial gauge with a magnetic holder and follow the tech papers. Anybody with a good head on his shoulders can accomplish this,, its not rocket science.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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I wasnt confident about doing it myself, so van steel did mine and they did an awesome job I did offset arms and and went with all top line parts, they put on the rotors and put the e brake all together. I like the piece of mind that if something goes wrong with how they were rebuilt I can get it fixed without it coming out of my pocket. All that aside, if you have the experience and are on a budget go for it!! I just dont have enough experience rebuilding a very critical part that has very tight tolerences. Good luck, and if you decide to have someone do it for you van steel is the place.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Setting up the rear bearings properly is a chore. I farmed out the bearing setup to GTR1999, then reassembled the arms and pressed the bearings together myself. I hope I got it all right...
i have no doubt that GTR1999 does a top notch job - beter than i, no doubt. but i didn't think it was that hard.

i used an old spindle as the set up tool (ground down so the bearing didn't set) and an orbital sander to grind one of the spacers enough to get the end play into spec. seemed fairly straight forward.

hardest part imo was getting everything set up to press the assy apart.
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I did mine myself, only special tool I got was the spindle knocker. I also used Gary's services to make my spacers and shime and it all fit perfectly with the second set of shims Gary had to make for me because I screwd up the measurement. All good now
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Originally Posted by SIXFOOTER
I did mine myself, only special tool I got was the spindle knocker.
interesting. i had to press the shet out of mine to seperate them.
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I've done quite a few of them over the years. It's not that hard...but it does take some time. But hey..that's what garage fun is all about!

The only *real* tool I use for them is a simple dial indicator. A press is handy on the bad ones..but often I don't even need one. If one has fried..sure...but usually they come apart OK.

I don't own a set up tool...but I do have some mics....or you could use a digital/dial caliper to measure spacer and shims.

Sooner or later you will always need a dial indicator and a caliper...so might as well get them . They are cheap.


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