383 or LS6??
Heel & Toe
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From: West Palm Beach FL
That's a hot bike! What's the year/make/model? Is that custom paint? Just a great shot you threw up there.
As much as I like the LS6, I vote for the 383.
And I encourage, by the way, a small, inexpensive, affordable power adder of some kind.
http://www.superchevy.com/technical/..._blower_motor/
As much as I like the LS6, I vote for the 383.
And I encourage, by the way, a small, inexpensive, affordable power adder of some kind.
http://www.superchevy.com/technical/..._blower_motor/
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Burning Brakes
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From: san jose California
thats my monster Gossamer 
its a slide show so if you click on it you get more pics..
its a 2005 ducati monster s2r with straight pipes and a pc3... dyno tuned and all.. loud as nuts too..
paint is basically the same as stock but the stripe is not a decal anymore, i added the 78 and took off the ducati logos on the tank to get a cleaner look..thats my daily driver right now
its a slide show so if you click on it you get more pics..
its a 2005 ducati monster s2r with straight pipes and a pc3... dyno tuned and all.. loud as nuts too..
paint is basically the same as stock but the stripe is not a decal anymore, i added the 78 and took off the ducati logos on the tank to get a cleaner look..thats my daily driver right now
Drifting
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From: Longwood Florida
LOOKING FOR THIS... I AM THE FIRST C3 THAT I KNOW OF WITH A LS POWERED CARB ENGINE !!
After getting a new carb (holley AED 680 DP) it runs like a Scalded DOG!!
I am running LS6 stock LS1 block with comp cam 228 581/581 edelbrock RPM manifold...C5 manifold... MAD chamber exhaust... f-body drive belt system... C5 power steering... (needed to MOD the steering system)... still running the A3 with fly wheel and adapter from Hughes... with a 10in 3000 non-locking stall... 3.23 gears... 275/60r15 dragradials...
I can boil the BFGs with 15lbs of air from a stop half way into 2nd gear
No distubutor... RUNNING MSD timing control with replacable chips... THEY NOW MAKE A LAPTOP PROGRAMABLE UNIT... I will be switch to this soon ... to run my NO2
After getting a new carb (holley AED 680 DP) it runs like a Scalded DOG!!
I am running LS6 stock LS1 block with comp cam 228 581/581 edelbrock RPM manifold...C5 manifold... MAD chamber exhaust... f-body drive belt system... C5 power steering... (needed to MOD the steering system)... still running the A3 with fly wheel and adapter from Hughes... with a 10in 3000 non-locking stall... 3.23 gears... 275/60r15 dragradials...
I can boil the BFGs with 15lbs of air from a stop half way into 2nd gear
No distubutor... RUNNING MSD timing control with replacable chips... THEY NOW MAKE A LAPTOP PROGRAMABLE UNIT... I will be switch to this soon ... to run my NO2
Last edited by holley505; Sep 17, 2007 at 04:25 PM.
Safety Car
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From: Youngstown Ohio
If the engine is optimized for the 195's, then you would lose some torque and HP with the 210's (little); but if you plan on upgrading later, then definitely go with the 210's.
Racer
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From: Mauriceville TX
LOOKING FOR THIS... I AM THE FIRST C3 THAT I KNOW OF WITH A LS POWERED CARB ENGINE !!
After getting a new carb (holley AED 680 DP) it runs like a Scalded DOG!!
I am running LS6 stock LS1 block with comp cam 228 581/581 edelbrock RPM manifold...C5 manifold... MAD chamber exhaust... f-body drive belt system... C5 power steering... (needed to MOD the steering system)... still running the A3 with fly wheel and adapter from Hughes... with a 10in 3000 non-locking stall... 3.23 gears... 275/60r15 dragradials...
I can boil the BFGs with 15lbs of air from a stop half way into 2nd gear
No distubutor... RUNNING MSD timing control with replacable chips... THEY NOW MAKE A LAPTOP PROGRAMABLE UNIT... I will be switch to this soon ... to run my NO2
After getting a new carb (holley AED 680 DP) it runs like a Scalded DOG!!
I am running LS6 stock LS1 block with comp cam 228 581/581 edelbrock RPM manifold...C5 manifold... MAD chamber exhaust... f-body drive belt system... C5 power steering... (needed to MOD the steering system)... still running the A3 with fly wheel and adapter from Hughes... with a 10in 3000 non-locking stall... 3.23 gears... 275/60r15 dragradials...
I can boil the BFGs with 15lbs of air from a stop half way into 2nd gear
No distubutor... RUNNING MSD timing control with replacable chips... THEY NOW MAKE A LAPTOP PROGRAMABLE UNIT... I will be switch to this soon ... to run my NO2
1) Did you have to change engine mounts to get the LS in?
2) How difficult was it to modify the power steering setup...what was involved?
3) Any room for an A/C compressor?
One gear at a time
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I was in a similar spot about 4 years ago with our Chevelle. I was torn between a 496 and a LSx engine. Since I already had a 454, I stroked it. The engine makes awesome torque, with a slight lope and will annihilate the tires from a 35-40 MPH roll. I can't hook it on the street, and have to baby the throttle from stops, or the tires break loose.
I regret not building an LS based engine. The lighter weight for handling and braking and the economy & drivability, would have also been much better.
Competition Products has some nicely priced LS based strokers. Top them with a L92 topend, and you can have a hell of a runner for under $6K. I'm tempted to sell the 496 and go this route.
I regret not building an LS based engine. The lighter weight for handling and braking and the economy & drivability, would have also been much better.
Competition Products has some nicely priced LS based strokers. Top them with a L92 topend, and you can have a hell of a runner for under $6K. I'm tempted to sell the 496 and go this route.
Drifting
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From: Longwood Florida
1) Did you have to change engine mounts to get the LS in?
2) How difficult was it to modify the power steering setup...what was involved?
3) Any room for an A/C compressor?
1. YES... several companies make LS mounts that retro fit to GM mounting location. (see item #2)
2. Because of the steering links... spacers hade to be made to lower it 1/4 in and also the motor was moved forward about 1 in to clear that and the frame with my F-body oil pan. (so motor mounts and tranny mount was moved forward 1 in... and driveshaft modified.
3. WHAT IS A/C ??
Maybe one day a space for a Procharger..
but if you want A/C newman cars make a LS1 kit for old chevy retro fit, using F-body pully system...it mounts to the factory location... top passenger side.
2) How difficult was it to modify the power steering setup...what was involved?
3) Any room for an A/C compressor?
1. YES... several companies make LS mounts that retro fit to GM mounting location. (see item #2)
2. Because of the steering links... spacers hade to be made to lower it 1/4 in and also the motor was moved forward about 1 in to clear that and the frame with my F-body oil pan. (so motor mounts and tranny mount was moved forward 1 in... and driveshaft modified.
3. WHAT IS A/C ??
Maybe one day a space for a Procharger.. but if you want A/C newman cars make a LS1 kit for old chevy retro fit, using F-body pully system...it mounts to the factory location... top passenger side.
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Drifting
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From: Longwood Florida
I was still working the carb bugs out at that point... but switching to DP holley fixed that...
Melting Slicks
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I don't understand the appeal of putting a carb on an LS engine. If I went through that much trouble to get that damn engine in the car, half the reason would be for the fuel injectors.
Holley505, explain yourself!
Holley505, explain yourself!
Drifting
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From: Longwood Florida
No reason to explain. really... but since you asked.
DARE TO BE DIFFERENT...
besides how many pro-street or fastest street car guys you see running CARBS... I would say about 75% of them...
ALSO... it is cheaper and cleaner under the hood of older car... no crazy wiring harness... no high pressure fuel system... no computer...
next your going to bust me for having a A3 tranny
My favorite most people look under the hood and can't figure out what it is LOL
WANNA RACE !?!?!?
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Burning Brakes
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From: san jose California
this is why i that engine called to me 
Racer
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From: Dallas TX
light weight and more power
It seems like the major advantages the LS is better flowing heads, more power, and less weight due to the aluminum block and heads. The 383 would be easy to mount everything to and you can reuse your accessories. I'm starting to think the easiest way to do this is get an aluminum 427 short block from World then slap on some aluminum AFR heads. That gets you the benefits of less weight and more power via extra displacement while keeping installation easy and you can use your existing headers and stuff. Seems like the best of both worlds, right?
Drifting
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It seems like the major advantages the LS is better flowing heads, more power, and less weight due to the aluminum block and heads. The 383 would be easy to mount everything to and you can reuse your accessories. I'm starting to think the easiest way to do this is get an aluminum 427 short block from World then slap on some aluminum AFR heads. That gets you the benefits of less weight and more power via extra displacement while keeping installation easy and you can use your existing headers and stuff. Seems like the best of both worlds, right?
True... but. I get the advantage to the latest block and head design... GEN I motor are the same from 1955 to the late 1990 in full size trucks... the back LS heads flow are well and high dollar aftermarket GEN 1 heads... yes you could get a nice GEN 427 block... but no deep skirts and 6 bolt mains??
what about the crank in rods?? you will spend more money building that GEN 1 block vs. build of today technology.just my .02...
and what cool about looking at a 427 sbc vs 305 sbc... they look the same to the average guy ???
Melting Slicks
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True... but. I get the advantage to the latest block and head design... GEN I motor are the same from 1955 to the late 1990 in full size trucks... the back LS heads flow are well and high dollar aftermarket GEN 1 heads... yes you could get a nice GEN 427 block... but no deep skirts and 6 bolt mains?? what about the crank in rods?? you will spend more money building that GEN 1 block vs. build of today technology.
just my .02...
and what cool about looking at a 427 sbc vs 305 sbc... they look the same to the average guy ???
what about the crank in rods?? you will spend more money building that GEN 1 block vs. build of today technology.just my .02...
and what cool about looking at a 427 sbc vs 305 sbc... they look the same to the average guy ???
I guess I can understand putting a carb on an LS engine, it's just that my C3 use to be my daily driver. And filling the car with 91 every other day was a major pain in my wallet. So the fuel injectors have always been appealing to me. And if I had the will to spend more money in my engine swap, it would have been an LS engine no doubt.
Drifting
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From: Longwood Florida
Well no, not really. My car is faster than my buddy's 82 with a H&C LS1. We both have a T56 and we both have the same rear end ratio. Admittedly, mine is only slightly faster and his is much much more streetable than mine. But case in point... he spent a lot more money on his engine swap than I did.
I guess I can understand putting a carb on an LS engine, it's just that my C3 use to be my daily driver. And filling the car with 91 every other day was a major pain in my wallet. So the fuel injectors have always been appealing to me. And if I had the will to spend more money in my engine swap, it would have been an LS engine no doubt.
I guess I can understand putting a carb on an LS engine, it's just that my C3 use to be my daily driver. And filling the car with 91 every other day was a major pain in my wallet. So the fuel injectors have always been appealing to me. And if I had the will to spend more money in my engine swap, it would have been an LS engine no doubt.
TRUE THAT... I respect that and your choice No doubt.
But dare to be different factor and under the hood (AHHHHH) can be beat with LS and Carb. I wonder if you buddy with the 82... did his swap with a carb and no computer and fuel injection... how would it have saved him.
I have since a old nova with a 5.3 swap... cam, stall, single plane manifold... and plate NO2 system... didnt have much money in it... and supposely ran in the 11s... (low compression pump gas Truck motor) iron block.
Drifting
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From: Longwood Florida
Drifting
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From: Longwood Florida