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fly eye aircleaner
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Drifting
Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Las Cruces NM
It's also a 35 year old performance part, so they're not exactly as common as walking into a parts store today to pick one up.
I did a lot of searching and couldn't find one vehicle fire caused by a foam aircleaner.
So, I'd like to see some photos of burned up cars that were caused by foam aircleaners. Doesn't even have to be the fly eye style. I'm tired of this heard it from a friend stuff and I'd like to see actual documented instances.
Yep, that's right, I'm calling b.s., so everyone show their hand.
Without any proof of your statements, then your just talking out your...well, you get it.
I did a lot of searching and couldn't find one vehicle fire caused by a foam aircleaner.
So, I'd like to see some photos of burned up cars that were caused by foam aircleaners. Doesn't even have to be the fly eye style. I'm tired of this heard it from a friend stuff and I'd like to see actual documented instances.
Yep, that's right, I'm calling b.s., so everyone show their hand.
Without any proof of your statements, then your just talking out your...well, you get it.
Last edited by okinawa86vette; Oct 9, 2007 at 11:29 PM.
Burning Brakes
Joined: May 2007
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From: LaMoille Illinois
No problem there...don't wear my seatbelt....let the flaming begin....
I just get sick that I get 12 posts with only one that actually answered a question I asked. I'm tired of this overly safe world and people who are scared of life trying to impress their boring safe lives on me.
If you guys were trying to help, I would have gotten the measurement I asked for, not a string of lectures on how to live my life safe and sound like all of you guys.
I just get sick that I get 12 posts with only one that actually answered a question I asked. I'm tired of this overly safe world and people who are scared of life trying to impress their boring safe lives on me.
If you guys were trying to help, I would have gotten the measurement I asked for, not a string of lectures on how to live my life safe and sound like all of you guys.
a helmet fire suit roll cage etc. in a daily driver would be over safe.
but the i live life to the fullest no fear crap you are spuing is pure
Racer
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Temecula CA
This happened to me about 20 years ago (as long as we are hijacking threads!) I was running one of those filters on a 72 smallblock, and a backfire melted a piece off the little plastic form that held the foam element in place. The little piece of molten plastic dropped down into the carb throat and jammed the throttle open (not quite wide open, but enough to scare the bejeezus out of me).
temvette72
P.S. I think those filters look cool...
temvette72
P.S. I think those filters look cool...
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Drifting
Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Las Cruces NM
When I posted my original post, I was clear and to the point. Somehow it got twisted into a tell me how my car will tragically burn to the ground if I use that aircleaner thread.
If you want to wear your seat belt, good. If not, good. It's your life and doesn't bother me one bit. If you want to put stickers and a wing on your car, no problem, it's your car.
I have no reason to get upset about the things you do that don't effect me. I expect the exact same on the return.
Nobody should be telling me what I should and shouldn't do with my body, car, or anything else that doesn't effect them.
I don't understand why anybody thinks they need to impress their ways on someone else.
Anyhow, if anyone has actual proof of these horrible car tragedies that fly eye aircleaners have inflicted on the automotive community, I'm all ears.
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Drifting
Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Las Cruces NM
This happened to me about 20 years ago (as long as we are hijacking threads!) I was running one of those filters on a 72 smallblock, and a backfire melted a piece off the little plastic form that held the foam element in place. The little piece of molten plastic dropped down into the carb throat and jammed the throttle open (not quite wide open, but enough to scare the bejeezus out of me).
temvette72
P.S. I think those filters look cool...
temvette72
P.S. I think those filters look cool...
Thank you for the input. I appreciate the actual, first hand experience.
I think they look cool too, and I actually only wanted to put on for local shows, not for driving around everyday with, since it's a vintage hot rod part. But, nobody asked so I ran with it.
Last edited by okinawa86vette; Oct 9, 2007 at 11:56 PM.
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Drifting
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From: Las Cruces NM
Man, you're sitting on a time bomb
Last edited by okinawa86vette; Oct 10, 2007 at 08:48 AM.
Drifting
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I think in general, we're concerned for your health, well being, and drawing on life lessons learned, the safety of the Corvette.
I never wore seatbelts either until my best friend (and godmother to my youngest son) went off I-95 in NH and was near cut in half when her 4x4 roll bar equipped Dodge Ram flipped. She's dead. I miss her.
Those fly eye filters are junk. Historic junk. And I have seen 2 catch on fire on friends cars. (a Mustang and a Camaro) when they were selling new.
Corvettes are special vehicles. Corvette owners are passionate about their Corvettes. They are concerned for the image, reputation and well being of fellow Corvettes and owners. (they even wave to each other)
Imagine the Corvette owner that puts something on their car, and God forbid, it DOES go up in flames crying "WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME!?"
At least this group cares enough to warn of potential life endangering acts of 'when cool ideas go bad'
I never wore seatbelts either until my best friend (and godmother to my youngest son) went off I-95 in NH and was near cut in half when her 4x4 roll bar equipped Dodge Ram flipped. She's dead. I miss her.
Those fly eye filters are junk. Historic junk. And I have seen 2 catch on fire on friends cars. (a Mustang and a Camaro) when they were selling new.
Corvettes are special vehicles. Corvette owners are passionate about their Corvettes. They are concerned for the image, reputation and well being of fellow Corvettes and owners. (they even wave to each other)
Imagine the Corvette owner that puts something on their car, and God forbid, it DOES go up in flames crying "WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME!?"
At least this group cares enough to warn of potential life endangering acts of 'when cool ideas go bad'
My point is simple and I think went over a lot of heads. My life is just that, my life. My car is my car.
When I posted my original post, I was clear and to the point. Somehow it got twisted into a tell me how my car will tragically burn to the ground if I use that aircleaner thread.
If you want to wear your seat belt, good. If not, good. It's your life and doesn't bother me one bit. If you want to put stickers and a wing on your car, no problem, it's your car.
I have no reason to get upset about the things you do that don't effect me. I expect the exact same on the return.
Nobody should be telling me what I should and shouldn't do with my body, car, or anything else that doesn't effect them.
I don't understand why anybody thinks they need to impress their ways on someone else.
Anyhow, if anyone has actual proof of these horrible car tragedies that fly eye aircleaners have inflicted on the automotive community, I'm all ears.
When I posted my original post, I was clear and to the point. Somehow it got twisted into a tell me how my car will tragically burn to the ground if I use that aircleaner thread.
If you want to wear your seat belt, good. If not, good. It's your life and doesn't bother me one bit. If you want to put stickers and a wing on your car, no problem, it's your car.
I have no reason to get upset about the things you do that don't effect me. I expect the exact same on the return.
Nobody should be telling me what I should and shouldn't do with my body, car, or anything else that doesn't effect them.
I don't understand why anybody thinks they need to impress their ways on someone else.
Anyhow, if anyone has actual proof of these horrible car tragedies that fly eye aircleaners have inflicted on the automotive community, I'm all ears.
Last edited by pbcanney; Oct 10, 2007 at 09:08 AM.
Thread Starter
Drifting
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From: Las Cruces NM
If you guys feel some attachment to me or my car because it wears the same badges as yours, then that's fine. As for me, if I see someone doing some dangerous that doesn't endanger me, stupid, ugly, or otherwise in bad taste, I just don't post unless they ask for that advice.
I am a responsible adult, unlike most folks in this country today, where my actions are my own and I don't become a victim of myself because nobody warned me. If I do something and it turns out bad, I accept the responsibility and move on.
I don't sue tire companies because I under inflate their tires, I don't sue a fast food chain because I got burned when I spilled coffee on me and I don't expect compensation because I touched a hot stove. And more to the point, I won't blame you guys if something happens to my car, even if you never told me.
I am a responsible adult, unlike most folks in this country today, where my actions are my own and I don't become a victim of myself because nobody warned me. If I do something and it turns out bad, I accept the responsibility and move on.
I don't sue tire companies because I under inflate their tires, I don't sue a fast food chain because I got burned when I spilled coffee on me and I don't expect compensation because I touched a hot stove. And more to the point, I won't blame you guys if something happens to my car, even if you never told me.
Last edited by okinawa86vette; Oct 10, 2007 at 09:22 AM.
Melting Slicks
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I had a buddy in the Navy that had an under hood fire caused by a foam air filter that burnt through the rubber fuel line. It was a metal car, just the hood paint and wiring harness were damaged.
I don't have any concrete proof but I'd hazard a guess that most prior C3 fires were caused by some sort of fuel leak. Rubber fuel lines and cheap glass/plastic filters are known to be sources of fuel leaks.
Fiberglass and gasoline burn easily, probably quickly when combined. I have no first hand experience burning the two together, but I've seen pictures of fiberglass boats burn to the waterline.
If an air cleaner is known to cause fires I'd throw it out in a heartbeat, cheap and easy precautionary move.
After all these years I don't think replacement C3's in decent shape are a dime a dozen any longer.
Your absolutely right, it is your car.
Maybe someone will post a picture of the air cleaner in question, there might be others who would be interested in replacing theirs.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Butler Pa
In that picture you attached, I don't see one of the offending air cleaners, but I do see an open paper element filter base laying by that piece of concrete. So what caused this fire?
Melting Slicks
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I don't carry a spare tire, I can't remember the last time I needed a spare. The consequences of not having a spare don't warrant the need to carry a spare in my experience, so I leave it home.
I understand this fire was caused by a rubber fuel line.
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Drifting
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From: Las Cruces NM
I think there's only a few people that actually got the point of this whole thread. I simply asked for a measurement. If you don't have the measurement, then there's no need to post.
As far as fire safety goes, I don't care. I only care about what I asked in regards to the fly eye filter. You guys have never even met me, so don't worry about my safety. I gladly return the favor by not caring about your safety. It is not your responsibility to worry about my life, car or anything else outside your small corner of the universe.
If you feel like you need a place for your safety views to be heard, there are many organizations in place just for you.
As far as fire safety goes, I don't care. I only care about what I asked in regards to the fly eye filter. You guys have never even met me, so don't worry about my safety. I gladly return the favor by not caring about your safety. It is not your responsibility to worry about my life, car or anything else outside your small corner of the universe.
If you feel like you need a place for your safety views to be heard, there are many organizations in place just for you.