Engine stand wiring
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Racer
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Engine stand wiring
I will be getting my new 406 from the machinist within the next two weeks. I plan to run the engine on a stand prior to installation so I can break it in and test for leaks.
I have accumulated al the necessary parts to start it on the stand but I can't find any infomation about how to connect the wiring. It will be using a HEI distributor. I have the battery, ignition switch, battery cables, gauges, throttle cable etc...
Can anyone provide the wiring information or point me in the right direction? I have searched the forum and been unsuccessful so far.
I have accumulated al the necessary parts to start it on the stand but I can't find any infomation about how to connect the wiring. It will be using a HEI distributor. I have the battery, ignition switch, battery cables, gauges, throttle cable etc...
Can anyone provide the wiring information or point me in the right direction? I have searched the forum and been unsuccessful so far.
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http://www.356registry.org/Tech/imag...nd_diagram.pdf
Thats a pretty basic setup there, the regulator/generator area is going to depend on what kind of alternator you are using.
Thats a pretty basic setup there, the regulator/generator area is going to depend on what kind of alternator you are using.
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Found a drawing that might be useful:
Last edited by shafrs3; Oct 16, 2007 at 08:44 AM.
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Racer
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I have an 1977 OEM HEI with the coil in the cap. The connection is a pigtail on the distributor.
I am trying to understand how to wire the starter and the distributor to a battery using a universal ignition switch. There will be no alternator while the engine is on the stand.
I am trying to understand how to wire the starter and the distributor to a battery using a universal ignition switch. There will be no alternator while the engine is on the stand.
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Racer
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Thanks for the diagram. A couple of follow up questions.
Is the battery cable just a direct connection to the solenoid? The diagram shows a gate or switch on the cable. My battery cable just has a connection for the battery and the starter. I have seen some that also have a 10ga wire that you can crimp a lead to.
The connection on the S terminal looks like a direct connection to the ingnition switch. Is this true? What guage should this wire be?
Do you know which which lug on the distributor connector is for the battery?
Is the battery cable just a direct connection to the solenoid? The diagram shows a gate or switch on the cable. My battery cable just has a connection for the battery and the starter. I have seen some that also have a 10ga wire that you can crimp a lead to.
The connection on the S terminal looks like a direct connection to the ingnition switch. Is this true? What guage should this wire be?
Do you know which which lug on the distributor connector is for the battery?
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Thanks for the diagram. A couple of follow up questions.
Is the battery cable just a direct connection to the solenoid? The diagram shows a gate or switch on the cable. My battery cable just has a connection for the battery and the starter. I have seen some that also have a 10ga wire that you can crimp a lead to.
The connection on the S terminal looks like a direct connection to the ingnition switch. Is this true? What guage should this wire be?
Do you know which which lug on the distributor connector is for the battery?
Is the battery cable just a direct connection to the solenoid? The diagram shows a gate or switch on the cable. My battery cable just has a connection for the battery and the starter. I have seen some that also have a 10ga wire that you can crimp a lead to.
The connection on the S terminal looks like a direct connection to the ingnition switch. Is this true? What guage should this wire be?
Do you know which which lug on the distributor connector is for the battery?
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Melting Slicks
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Is the battery cable just a direct connection to the solenoid? (Yes, the big lug on the solenoid)
The diagram shows a gate or switch (This is how I depicted the ignition switch) on the cable. My battery cable just has a connection for the battery and the starter. (It's a drawing I had laying around that I modified, it shows a tap off the batt cable, you can run a wire from the batt + post to the switch instead.)
I have seen some that also have a 10ga wire that you can crimp a lead to.
The connection on the S terminal looks like a direct connection to the ignition switch. (Yes from the start position of the switch, 14 gage is fine) Is this true? What gage should this wire be?
Do you know which which lug on the distributor connector is for the battery? (Use the other drawing I included above for the distributor battery connection)
Good luck.
The diagram shows a gate or switch (This is how I depicted the ignition switch) on the cable. My battery cable just has a connection for the battery and the starter. (It's a drawing I had laying around that I modified, it shows a tap off the batt cable, you can run a wire from the batt + post to the switch instead.)
I have seen some that also have a 10ga wire that you can crimp a lead to.
The connection on the S terminal looks like a direct connection to the ignition switch. (Yes from the start position of the switch, 14 gage is fine) Is this true? What gage should this wire be?
Do you know which which lug on the distributor connector is for the battery? (Use the other drawing I included above for the distributor battery connection)
Good luck.
Last edited by shafrs3; Oct 16, 2007 at 07:21 PM.
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Thank you for all the replies. I think I now understand what to do. This is a great example of how helpful Forum members can be. I will let you know how I make out when I get the 406 fully assembled. I expect the long block in about 2 weeks.
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The diagram shows a gate or switch (This is how I depicted the ignition switch) on the cable. My battery cable just has a connection for the battery and the starter. (It's a drawing I had laying around that I modified, it shows a tap off the batt cable, you can run a wire from the batt + lug to the switch instead.) :
Thanks for the help. I hope this is the last question.
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Also the previous post mentioned an important safety point, be sure to bolt down your engine stand to the floor, the rotating mass of a running motor could flip your engine with stand right over when you blip the throttle.
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My universal ignition switch has 4 posts - Starter - Ignition - Battery and Acc. This is my attempt to match the diagram that was posted to the markings on the ignition switch. Here is my guess for the connections. Please let me know if this is correct.
From the tap on the battery positive cable to the batt post on the switch.
From the S terminal on the solenoid to the Starter post on the switch.
From Ignition post on the switch to the Batt lug on the HEI dist. I am assuming that the Ignition post on the switch is the same a Run position on the diagram.
Thanks for all the replies.
From the tap on the battery positive cable to the batt post on the switch.
From the S terminal on the solenoid to the Starter post on the switch.
From Ignition post on the switch to the Batt lug on the HEI dist. I am assuming that the Ignition post on the switch is the same a Run position on the diagram.
Thanks for all the replies.
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Don't let an ignition switch confuse you. The next time you go to use the test stand you'll be looking for the keys anyway.
Get a 2 toggle switches.
1-from battery (or large post on starter) to switch to hei (to turn it on/off)
2-from battery (or large post on starter) to switch (momentary is better or push button switch) to "s" term on solenoid of starter
Battery connections
Pos battery to large lug on on starter.
(Large lug on starter 12ga wire to hot side of both toggle switches if more convenient)
Neg battery to any large bolt on engine.
Any gauges pos to sending unit, neg to ground.
Get a 2 toggle switches.
1-from battery (or large post on starter) to switch to hei (to turn it on/off)
2-from battery (or large post on starter) to switch (momentary is better or push button switch) to "s" term on solenoid of starter
Battery connections
Pos battery to large lug on on starter.
(Large lug on starter 12ga wire to hot side of both toggle switches if more convenient)
Neg battery to any large bolt on engine.
Any gauges pos to sending unit, neg to ground.
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Racer
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My universal ignition switch has 4 posts - Starter - Ignition - Battery and Acc. This is my attempt to match the diagram that was posted to the markings on the ignition switch. Here is my guess for the connections. Please let me know if this is correct.
From the tap on the battery positive cable to the batt post on the switch.
From the S terminal on the solenoid to the Starter post on the switch.
From Ignition post on the switch to the Batt lug on the HEI dist. I am assuming that the Ignition post on the switch is the same a Run position on the diagram.
Thanks for all the replies.
From the tap on the battery positive cable to the batt post on the switch.
From the S terminal on the solenoid to the Starter post on the switch.
From Ignition post on the switch to the Batt lug on the HEI dist. I am assuming that the Ignition post on the switch is the same a Run position on the diagram.
Thanks for all the replies.
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