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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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I've seen several threads where it's been said that proper half shaft angles ought to be level or horizontal.

A drive line specialist told me that whenever you've got universals turning, a constant angle is desirable because the working of the universal is what lubricates the needle bearings.

This made sense to me. If so, level (or horizontal half shafts) is not the best way to go.

Any opinions on this?

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I think the references to level halfshafts refer to the resting position. When the car is in motion the angles of the halfshafts are constantly changing.



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I prefer to have my half shafts angled down slightly toward the wheels. This way the rear bump steer is minimized.
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Originally Posted by 72LS1Vette
I think the references to level halfshafts refer to the resting position. When the car is in motion the angles of the halfshafts are constantly changing.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 72LS1Vette
I think the references to level halfshafts refer to the resting position. When the car is in motion the angles of the halfshafts are constantly changing.



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I don't quite understand. The angle of the half shafts is constant, car in motion or not, except when you're going over a bump or taking a turn.

Driver, passenger, fuel can effect angle somewhat also, but generally speaking I also prefer a slight downward angle on the shafts, (I think)

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Originally Posted by Jason Staley
I prefer to have my half shafts angled down slightly toward the wheels. This way the rear bump steer is minimized.
What is bump steer?

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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What is bump steer?
one of the few times when the term is actually self explanatory. as the wheel/tire moves vertically (bump), the toe-in (steer) varies; in other words, the wheel turns left or right when you drive over a bump as a result of the suspension geometry. same happens when cornering hard, etc. . . .
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It also depends on the particular circumstance you are putting the rear-end under. For hard launching (drag racing) you don't want the rear squatting so much that the half-shafts go past zero angle. Because of the geometry and the way the output shafts are held, etc this can cause some bad stresses on the rear end and kaboom. On a hard launch you are trying to get the suspension system so that at maximum launch/travel the half-shafts go level.

Now, for just driving down the road, yes, U-joints need a slight angle in them to keep the needle bearings spinning. But have you ever wathed suspension operating on a typical road? Even on what you consider flat even road the suspension still moves up and down enough to not worry so much about the angle or if you are level when the car is just sitting there. Typically you just don't want the shafts pointing up at rest. If you aren't putting out much power and don't hammer the rear-end you might get away with this situation but it's not desired.
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