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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 08:21 PM
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Oh no...terrible news. Its been about 2 months since my 77 was painted, and just in the last 2 days it has developed "achne" on the passangers side hood. :cry That means it has very small bumps all over the place, as well as one larger one thats begining to take the sape of a paint run.

Im devostated. I called the body shop and they where walking out the door for the day, I forced them to wait for me to get there to asses the damage(I live 30 minutes away). The guy, who is extreemly nice, garonteed me he would fix it, but told me to wait until late febuary early march, to let the paint finish doing what its going to do. (guess he wants to see if bumps develop other places). Im so bummed, but I am confadint he will fix it in march, and it will look perfect. I am ****-retentive when it comes to details, in fact the problems I mention are so minute that 5 guys standing around it tonight, could only compliment how awesome the paint job was(didn't even notice the problems. :confused: ).

I just wanted to let you know guys know. I just hope it doens't get much worse before he fixes it.

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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 08:41 PM
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The paint of today is cured within a day. It does not dry per se but sets by chemical reaction. One day is enough in an appropriate temperature. The paint finished what it had to do already. Brake fluid perhaps?
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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 09:33 PM
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no brake fluid. What I believe it to be is the chemicals they used to strip car. With the combination of rain and heat lately, I believe its what is going on.

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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 10:05 PM
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I leave this one to the paint experts. Sure does sound like bad prep....By chance would it be MAACO?
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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 10:14 PM
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nah this is a really repsectable local shop. If you knew the history of paint on this vette, you'd understand that this problem is nothing. I think someone who painted it long ago really messed something up. It is hard to explain, but don't diss the shop, because I know its not 100% them. My car has its own spirit, and the spirit doesn't want paint on the car, I just have to convince it paint makes it look better. :jester

I know it shouldn't do this, but given the circumstances, I am pleased with the work. And the support from the shop.

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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 10:20 PM
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With respect, I would not be satisfied with a shop that said they would fix it in March!! Next week would be OK with me.
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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 10:27 PM
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All you need now is for the body shop to be sold to someone else. I would ask to get it painted ASAP. Keep us posted
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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 10:34 PM
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I had the same thing happen on a fiero I painted last year.
Painted it with catalized acrylic enamel and long after it should have been cured it developed these blisters, only on the top and hood :confused: .
The rub is I repaired the areas (or at least I thought I did) only to have them reoccur in the same spots. I think it's something leaching out of the fiberglass. :mad
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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 10:37 PM
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we'll see. Im patient. But i think I will go up there again soon and see if he can't get it done sooner. He won't walk over me, but he has respected me thus far, so I owe it to him to respect him, until he tries to pull a fast one on me. He is probably the only person I have run into when dealing with my vette that has respected me(minus forum memebers), even though Im 18(the mechanic that did my breaks treated me like a moron, as well as all those FINE FINE folks at autozone and napa), so I will respect him.

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Old Dec 1, 2001 | 12:14 AM
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Could have been water or water vapor in the compressor lines when the car was sprayed. Just a small amount wont show up right away. but eventually it will.
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Old Dec 1, 2001 | 12:23 AM
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Daniel; If it is a problem with paint stripper gassing or leaching out, the only fix will be to strip it again and totally neutralize the stripper. Some of the experts I know recommend setting the stripped body in the sun for several days to help cook out any solvents that may have penetrated the glass. I know of several Vettes that had a similar problem and the shops tried to sand and paint on top, and the bubbles just came back soon afterwards. I hope you get this resovled to your satisfaction. Good Luck, Craig
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Old Dec 1, 2001 | 12:25 AM
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Blistering is a common problem that often rears it's ugly head months after the job. It's caused by many things but most likely:
- contaminates on the surface before painting.
- moisture trapped under the paint.
- painting too soon after wet sanding.
- contaminated air.
- high humidity while spraying.
- too fast of thinner or poor quality thinner.
- improper dry time between coats.
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Sorry to hear it. I really like your car and it sucks that it will end up back in the shop. I would be VERY worried about the rest of the body at this point. Maybe you should think about holding on to it for a month or two and see if any more trouble spot show up.
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Old Dec 1, 2001 | 03:26 AM
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Daniel,
I would be interested to see a close-up pic of the marks if you are able to send me one. I don't think it's stripper due to the fact that it took two months for it to show up, stripper will react to the paint as soon as it's sprayed on the affected area, the affected area will not dry as quickley as the rest of the car and it will be more of a wrinkled look after it does dry. I also don't think it would be brake fluid. What was done to prepare the car for painting ? Was there any body work done in this area that has the problem ? What type of paint was used ? Was the car clear coated ? If Enamel paint was used, do you know if they used a Catylist hardner in the paint ? Is the acne looking spots raised or are they pitted ? The one that looks like a sag or run, is it discolored, raised, dipped or flat and smooth? Did they buff the paint ? You can Email me at thomasjkt@pennswoods.net Todays paint do cure quick but are still accessable to damage buy certain types of chemicals for several weeks. Good example, gasoline spilled on acrylic enamel 1 wk after being sprayed with a hardner will cause the paint to raise and discolor then smooth back out and leave a slight streek that looks similar to a slight sag.
I'm sure if you used a good shop they will take care of your problem.
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