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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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I am having my '69 3512 block bored and decked this week. Is there any inherent value in having the stamp intact if it is a CE block? I figured there is a date stamp and that is about the only meaningful piece of information other than where it was cast.

I want to get my quench closer to .040 and can't get there without decking.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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If it isn't original engine to the car, the stamping is not worth keeping IMHO. (Unless it is a valuable block from some other car that the owner might want matching numbers)
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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I wouldn't shave any numbers off until you know what you have. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Doesnt "CE" designate it as a short block that came in a crate, usually sold over the parts counter, if the motor was replaced @ the dealers service shop they would somtimes stamp them with the appropriate #s to that vehicle. ????? Peace, Moosie
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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CE = Chevrolet Engine

It's either a warranty replacement engine or sold over the counter engine. It's not original to the car. Nothing special about it but I wouldn't remove any numbers if at all possible. If you deck it, you can always have it restamped so the original codes are not lost. It's not like you're trying to pass it off as something it's not. You just want to preserve its origin.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Roughrider
CE = Chevrolet Engine

It's either a warranty replacement engine or sold over the counter engine. It's not original to the car. Nothing special about it

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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CE=Chevrolet Engine with a serial number to track the warranty replacement. I'd deck it as needed.
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I figured it wasn't of special value. Just wanted to be sure that I wasn't detracting from the value of the block.

Thanks
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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WRONG! NCRS accepts "CE" code as "numbers matching" and does'nt deduct judging points for a "CE" code motor.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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I have heard that CE stands for counter exchange. And was used when the block or motor was replaced under warranty

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Solid LT1
WRONG! NCRS accepts "CE" code as "numbers matching" and does'nt deduct judging points for a "CE" code motor.
Let's see some references for that please.
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I do not see any reference for that in any of the judging manuals I have.
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I would think you'd also need the original dealer invoice and/or warranty paperwork showing that the CE replacement actually replaced your original [defective] engine. Heck, you can find a lot of CE engines with the correct date codes. That doesn't mean it was intended or installed in your car by the dealer. If you couldn't prove that, what would "numbers matching" really mean?
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Originally Posted by Scott Marzahl
I do not see any reference for that in any of the judging manuals I have.
There isn't any. Having a CE motor is PROOF that it cannot be the factory original engine.

Having a 'decked block' can always be argued that it is the original, but the stamps accidentally got machined off by someone who didn't know better.
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Hi Mike,
I think the only thing he gets credit for is the broach marks on the pad.
I can't see anything else unless he has the dealer warranty paperwork.
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