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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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I have what sounds like something binding up when making sharp right turns. I checked the front end and see nothing bent broken missing etc.

I got underneath the rear and checked the half shaft and drive shaft u joints thinking that possibly something is going bad back there and it just sounds like it is coming from the front.

While I cannot see anything obvious concerning the u joints, I did notice a little side to side play in one of the rear wheels. Should these have any play whatsoever? If I have a shot wheel bearing, could this be the cause of my issue??
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I have what sounds like something binding up when making sharp right turns. I checked the front end and see nothing bent broken missing etc.

I got underneath the rear and checked the half shaft and drive shaft u joints thinking that possibly something is going bad back there and it just sounds like it is coming from the front.

While I cannot see anything obvious concerning the u joints, I did notice a little side to side play in one of the rear wheels. Should these have any play whatsoever? If I have a shot wheel bearing, could this be the cause of my issue??
Is it more pronounced when driven for a time and the fluids are hot?
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Is it more pronounced when driven for a time and the fluids are hot?
Yes it is. Absolutely.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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If you can wobble a rear wheel in the 9-3 position then you've definitely got a problem. (Some up/down movement is acceptable because of axial play in the differential yokes.)
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only takes a second to check the front wheel bearings, get the wheel off the ground and wiggle the wheel, you should not find any noticeable wiggle. Spin the wheel, it should not growel or rumble.
Did you look to see if the tire is catching the fender skirt?
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SIXFOOTER
only takes a second to check the front wheel bearings, get the wheel off the ground and wiggle the wheel, you should not find any noticeable wiggle. Spin the wheel, it should not growel or rumble.
Did you look to see if the tire is catching the fender skirt?
Thr front wheelbearings are fine. The tires are damn close to the fender skirt, but not rubbing. The sound is more like a "pop" than a tire rub.

It's interesting that wombvette asked if it was more pronounced after the fluids would be warm, because he nailed it.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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OUT,
I believe some times you hear the clutches in the posi-taction chatter when you make a slow sharp turn if the posi-traction lube and additive need to be replaced. Could this be what you're hearing?
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Alan,
I don't have a spot on my garage floor, but I'll check it out.
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Sounds like posi hammering. Usually it's when the diff is hot and you start by turning a corner. Sounds like a hammering or popping sometimes a shift can be felt.
If this is what you have then you can try to suck out the old oil and add fresh Lucas 85-140 with 2 bottle of GM additive. If that doesn't help then you may need to drop the diff.
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Originally Posted by GTR1999
Sounds like posi hammering. Usually it's when the diff is hot and you start by turning a corner. Sounds like a hammering or popping sometimes a shift can be felt.
If this is what you have then you can try to suck out the old oil and add fresh Lucas 85-140 with 2 bottle of GM additive. If that doesn't help then you may need to drop the diff.
Listen to Gary; this man is a genius when it comes to C3 suspension - drain the fluid and refill like he said, then go for a test drive and tell us how it sounds. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by GTR1999
Sounds like posi hammering. Usually it's when the diff is hot and you start by turning a corner. Sounds like a hammering or popping sometimes a shift can be felt.
If this is what you have then you can try to suck out the old oil and add fresh Lucas 85-140 with 2 bottle of GM additive. If that doesn't help then you may need to drop the diff.
Thanks! I'll mess with this weekend probably. I'll let you know what I find.
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i've had this happen too; change the oil - it should work for a while
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Originally Posted by outrunm
It's interesting that wombvette asked if it was more pronounced after the fluids would be warm, because he nailed it.
Thats what I was getting at. Its a common posi clutch problem. Change fluid and additive.
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Thanks for the advice. Here's what I did:

I jacked up the driver's side and removed the plug. I figured I had issues when nothing leaked out. I sucked out the existing fluid, (very little) added the additive first, then topped it off with the gear lube.

On the test drive, I noticed that the rear end was noticeably quieter. I didn't even realize I had a roar before. The popping was still there though. After dinner, I realized that I never leveled the car when I filled the diff with fluid, so I went back out and topped it off correctly.

My baby's bedroom butts up against the garage, and I had already had a few cold beers while grilling steaks, so the next test drive will have to wait until tomorrow.

To be honest, I need lower gears anyway. I have put it off because that's diaper money, but fixing something broken is different than changing something for the hell of it.

Hopefully everything is cool tomorrow. At the least, I have a seal to replace as the underside of the rear of the car has a nice oily film. It's amazing that my garage floor is not a mess.
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Originally Posted by outrunm
Thanks for the advice. Here's what I did:

I jacked up the driver's side and removed the plug. I figured I had issues when nothing leaked out. I sucked out the existing fluid, (very little) added the additive first, then topped it off with the gear lube.

On the test drive, I noticed that the rear end was noticeably quieter. I didn't even realize I had a roar before. The popping was still there though. After dinner, I realized that I never leveled the car when I filled the diff with fluid, so I went back out and topped it off correctly.

My baby's bedroom butts up against the garage, and I had already had a few cold beers while grilling steaks, so the next test drive will have to wait until tomorrow.

To be honest, I need lower gears anyway. I have put it off because that's diaper money, but fixing something broken is different than changing something for the hell of it.

Hopefully everything is cool tomorrow. At the least, I have a seal to replace as the underside of the rear of the car has a nice oily film. It's amazing that my garage floor is not a mess.

As the fluid works into the clutches, it will help with the poping.
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