Tko Mount
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Racer
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From: Dane Wisconsin
Tko Mount
So I have a tko that I'm looking to install and need a mount. I called Keisler and got nothing but attitude about how I didn't buy my trans from them and how they spent all this time and money on developing the mount and would not sell me the mount. They even said the nice "oh I'll sell you the mount for 2,XXX but it will come with a spare trans." So anyway i need a trans mount can anyone help with a suggestion?
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St. Jude Donor '09
That "attitude" has been seen before there - IMO.
Try Scott or Jeff at http://www.classicchevy5speed.com (760) 438-2244
Try Scott or Jeff at http://www.classicchevy5speed.com (760) 438-2244
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That "attitude" has been seen before there - IMO.
Try Scott or Jeff at http://www.classicchevy5speed.com (760) 438-2244
Try Scott or Jeff at http://www.classicchevy5speed.com (760) 438-2244
If the design is patented they shouldn't have to worry about someone stealing it, which was the reason I got when I asked about buying a mount for a T56. I didn't see any individual components listed for sale at classicchevy5speed either but it wouldn't hurt to ask. I'm working on my own mount now, using the original crossmember and about $15.00 worth of parts. No welding involved.
Rick B.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
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So I have a tko that I'm looking to install and need a mount. I called Keisler and got nothing but attitude about how I didn't buy my trans from them and how they spent all this time and money on developing the mount and would not sell me the mount. They even said the nice "oh I'll sell you the mount for 2,XXX but it will come with a spare trans." So anyway i need a trans mount can anyone help with a suggestion?
Thanks Gene
Drifting
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From: San diego ca
these guys sell one that should work...
http://fourthgearinc.com/Corvette_Conversions.htm
Its technicly for a 700r4 but the length is the same - its the same mount I got from Bowtie Overdrives back when I did my swap.
http://fourthgearinc.com/Corvette_Conversions.htm
Its technicly for a 700r4 but the length is the same - its the same mount I got from Bowtie Overdrives back when I did my swap.
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I'm not saying that I'm a marketing expert-I was in sales and marketing for 20+ years....And I didn't sleep at a Holiday Express last night...
I've learned- the customer is always right (maybe just in his mind)-That a pissed off customer tells 10 people while the satisfied customer only tells 2. Now with the internet- I think it's probably at least 10,000 hear the bad.
Why don't you sell just the trans mount? Or, other parts. I would think there's enough profit in it? I would think that would HELP sales. If you don't -somebody else certainly will. My $.02.
Richard
I've learned- the customer is always right (maybe just in his mind)-That a pissed off customer tells 10 people while the satisfied customer only tells 2. Now with the internet- I think it's probably at least 10,000 hear the bad.
Why don't you sell just the trans mount? Or, other parts. I would think there's enough profit in it? I would think that would HELP sales. If you don't -somebody else certainly will. My $.02.
Richard
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From: knoxville tn
I've learned- the customer is always right (maybe just in his mind)-That a pissed off customer tells 10 people while the satisfied customer only tells 2. Now with the internet- I think it's probably at least 10,000 hear the bad.
Richard[/QUOTE]
I know this to be the rule, but we shouldn't have done anything to make him mad. We just don't sell the parts outright.
We shouldn't be penalized for not wanting to sell the part.
Gene
Richard[/QUOTE]
I know this to be the rule, but we shouldn't have done anything to make him mad. We just don't sell the parts outright.
We shouldn't be penalized for not wanting to sell the part.
Gene
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Gene,
When I did my 5-speed conversion, I got a lot of help and no attitude from your people. Then, again, I did buy my transmission from you.
When I did my 5-speed conversion, I got a lot of help and no attitude from your people. Then, again, I did buy my transmission from you.
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St. Jude Donor '03, '06, '17
If the design is patented they shouldn't have to worry about someone stealing it, which was the reason I got when I asked about buying a mount for a T56. I didn't see any individual components listed for sale at classicchevy5speed either but it wouldn't hurt to ask. I'm working on my own mount now, using the original crossmember and about $15.00 worth of parts. No welding involved. Rick B.
Unfortunately, they stopped selling that bracket.
Last edited by GrandSportC3; Mar 7, 2008 at 07:07 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '03, '06, '17
these guys sell one that should work...
http://fourthgearinc.com/Corvette_Conversions.htm
Its technicly for a 700r4 but the length is the same - its the same mount I got from Bowtie Overdrives back when I did my swap.
http://fourthgearinc.com/Corvette_Conversions.htm
Its technicly for a 700r4 but the length is the same - its the same mount I got from Bowtie Overdrives back when I did my swap.
For my current tranny (Powerglide), I had my chassis shop fabricate a bolt on crossmember for less than $200..
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Racer
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From: Dane Wisconsin
Really no attitude is saying "I'll sell you one but it is coming with a new trans" shows great attitude and great customer service. so if i called and i had bought the kit form you got in an accident and needed a new cross mount you would tell me we don't sell only that part? or would you say hey ok mister customer the part is XXX and we will get that out to you. you pissed that i didn't buy a kit from you and i pissed because you won't sell me parts. fair enough i guess you win since i don't have a mount...... but why turn business away? i tell you what if i ever do anything like this again you can bet i will not be coming to you guys nor will i be sending any business your way. i understand your in the business of selling transmissions not "parts" but as i look at your site i see lots of parts flywheels, clutches, bellhousings, pedals, shifter handles. i don't get it why would you not want to sell "parts" and make money.
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From: Stevens Point WI
Understand you not wanting to be a "Parts store" like selling spark plugs, fenders, hoods, seat belts......
But how hard is it to sell parts that are only ment for what you sell
aka "transmissions"
And only your brand transmissions.
Cant imagine how many parts you would have to stock but keeping a few extra on hand would make sense
I was looking for a tko-600 and ran into some problems in getting a response for a price quote back from KEISLER so a fellow forum member turned me onto Classic5speed and the same day I got a price from Jeff and ordered it that day.
Seems KEISLER 's customer service might need a little TLC
But how hard is it to sell parts that are only ment for what you sell
aka "transmissions"
And only your brand transmissions.
Cant imagine how many parts you would have to stock but keeping a few extra on hand would make sense
I was looking for a tko-600 and ran into some problems in getting a response for a price quote back from KEISLER so a fellow forum member turned me onto Classic5speed and the same day I got a price from Jeff and ordered it that day.
Seems KEISLER 's customer service might need a little TLC
Melting Slicks
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Geez guys....all this over a trans mount? This has been our policy for 9 years now. It's not like it's something new here. We have only sold the mount outright once since we've been in business and funny thing....right after we sold that stand alone mount, a new competitor opened up shop in this market.
Matter of fact, we did the same thing once for a Mopar guy and shortly after that, said competitor showed up with a new, familar looking Mopar kit.
Richard
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Keisler Engineering
Matter of fact, we did the same thing once for a Mopar guy and shortly after that, said competitor showed up with a new, familar looking Mopar kit. Richard
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Keisler Engineering
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Racer
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From: Dane Wisconsin
well then if the mount is made by your competitor then there is no reason to worry about me stealing your idea and selling it. but i'll buy it from your competitor.
like i said, if i was your customer and got in an accident, or some how wrecked the trans mount you would sell it to me but make me buy a trans too? i don't think so. your mad that i didn't buy the trans from you. you don't even sell the one i have.
like i said, if i was your customer and got in an accident, or some how wrecked the trans mount you would sell it to me but make me buy a trans too? i don't think so. your mad that i didn't buy the trans from you. you don't even sell the one i have.
Le Mans Master
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From: Oquirrh Mountains
St. Jude Donor '09
That "attitude" has been seen before there - IMO.
Try Scott or Jeff at http://www.classicchevy5speed.com (760) 438-2244
Try Scott or Jeff at http://www.classicchevy5speed.com (760) 438-2244
Jeff.Both of these are about one Franklin.
C3 Mount: http://fourthgearinc.com/Corvette_Conversions.htm
C2 Mount: http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/cata...php?ITEMID=114
Melting Slicks
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From: Tennessee
well then if the mount is copied by your competitor then there is no reason to worry about me stealing your idea and selling it. but i'll buy it from your competitor.
like i said, if i was your customer and got in an accident, or some how wrecked the trans mount you would sell it to me but make me buy a trans too? i don't think so. your mad that i didn't buy the trans from you. you don't even sell the one i have.
like i said, if i was your customer and got in an accident, or some how wrecked the trans mount you would sell it to me but make me buy a trans too? i don't think so. your mad that i didn't buy the trans from you. you don't even sell the one i have.
Fixed that for you....
By the way, if you had our kit and got into a wreck and needed a new mount, then yes, we would absolutely send you a new one.
Richard
Melting Slicks
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From: Tennessee
These guys (5 Spd) are the epitome of 'tude. If you aren't gonna drop 20 large on them, they don't have the decency to even call you back when they've stated they would with a 'quote'.
Jeff.
Both of these are about one Franklin.
C3 Mount: http://fourthgearinc.com/Corvette_Conversions.htm
C2 Mount: http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/cata...php?ITEMID=114
Jeff.Both of these are about one Franklin.
C3 Mount: http://fourthgearinc.com/Corvette_Conversions.htm
C2 Mount: http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/cata...php?ITEMID=114
You obviously aren't on here that much or you would see that I am all over this forum helping guys who didn't even buy our kit. Try asking Gavonm or durangoboy about me.
Richard
Drifting
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From: San diego ca
Like any business Kiesler decides what they sell and what they dont... in this case they dont...we have found the mount for you elsewhere - buy it and move on.
If you dont like kiesler for whatever reason swell, but this issue was resolved 3 days ago.
If you dont like kiesler for whatever reason swell, but this issue was resolved 3 days ago.
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From: Lakeland, FL
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St. Jude Donor '03, '06, '17
I don't really see what the big deal about that mount.. My race car builder can build a mount that will work in 1 - 2 hours..
Anybody that has fabrication equipment and some skills can make up a mount that will work just fine.
I recently had my fabrication guy cut my crossmember and make one for the powerglide that I installed. Cost me about $200 and it works great. He could do the same for any other tranny..
One thing that I'm wondering is WHO COPIED WHO when it comes to that transmission mount.. Bowtie Overdrives sold those brackets that look almost identical to the one that Keissler and forthgearinc.com are selling long time before TKO's were even available for GM applications.. Sure, they MARKETED their bracket for TH700R4's but as the 700R4 and the TKO have a identical mounting location, the bracket for either transmission is IDENTICAL!!!
Anybody that has fabrication equipment and some skills can make up a mount that will work just fine.
I recently had my fabrication guy cut my crossmember and make one for the powerglide that I installed. Cost me about $200 and it works great. He could do the same for any other tranny..
One thing that I'm wondering is WHO COPIED WHO when it comes to that transmission mount.. Bowtie Overdrives sold those brackets that look almost identical to the one that Keissler and forthgearinc.com are selling long time before TKO's were even available for GM applications.. Sure, they MARKETED their bracket for TH700R4's but as the 700R4 and the TKO have a identical mounting location, the bracket for either transmission is IDENTICAL!!!
Last edited by GrandSportC3; Mar 10, 2008 at 09:17 AM.