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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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I have a Steeroid rack installed and the steering feels too easy (little effort) to turn from that of stock. I remember reading long ago that someone installed an orifice to make the turning feel more like stock.........but damned if I can find the post again.


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Reducing the flow from the pump will have a minor affect on the effort and feel. The problem is that by the time that you reduce the flow sufficient to make a decent change in effort, you probably will not be able to make a quick steering maneuver. What you will find is that the effort will suddenly increase (higher than just manual effort) if you try to whip the steering wheel as if making an evasive maneuver.

The best fix is to replace the gear with one that has a higher effort valve. I would contact Steeroids and indicate your dissatisfaction. Their supplier for the rack and pinion gear should have better control as to what they rebuild and ship.

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I had the same too much assist feeling in my 65 when I added the Steeroids set up. I called them and bought a kit for the flow control valve. I used all the supplied shims. Still still a bit too much assist but it did help. It was worth the 25 bucks.

The kit shows a later pump but works on earlier style pumps as well.
PS Flow Control.PDF
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I couldn't open the pdf file. Could you just explain where the shims are going?

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I couldn't open the pdf file. Could you just explain where the shims are going?

Jim
The flow control valve is the fitting in the rear of the pump the high pressure hose attaches to. If you remove the valve there is a bolt retaining the spring that controls the pressure. By adding shims under the bolt head you reduce the spring tension which reduces output pressure. It does this by bleeding off pressure in the pump before it gets to the high pressure line.
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Those shims set the ultimate pressure that the pump can develop. That is known as the pressure relief setting. Only at full lock or when steering with the car stopped and nearing full lock do you ever crack the pressure relief valve. That setting should have no affect on down the road steering effort and feel.

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Originally Posted by Jim Shea
Those shims set the ultimate pressure that the pump can develop. That is known as the pressure relief setting. Only at full lock or when steering with the car stopped and nearing full lock do you ever crack the pressure relief valve. That setting should have no affect on down the road steering effort and feel.

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Interesting. It sure feels like the assist was reduced. According to the chart that came with the kit installing all the all the shims drops the pressure from 1350 to 700 lbs. I don't know what the actual pressure was before I started or what it is now. If the operating pressure was above the 700 lbs seems like it would bleed it off even if you were not at full lock? Yes...No....Maybe? Any idea what the normal operating pressure is at say 1500 rpm?
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Originally Posted by Sky65
Interesting. It sure feels like the assist was reduced. According to the chart that came with the kit installing all the all the shims drops the pressure from 1350 to 700 lbs. I don't know what the actual pressure was before I started or what it is now. If the operating pressure was above the 700 lbs seems like it would bleed it off even if you were not at full lock? Yes...No....Maybe? Any idea what the normal operating pressure is at say 1500 rpm?
Driving straight down the road your power assist pressure is probably only 50 to 100 psi when making minor lane changes. You will not be even close to the 700 psi pressure relief setting. I don't have an explanation as to why your steering would feel better with the shims installed under the hex nut.
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Originally Posted by Jim Shea
Driving straight down the road your power assist pressure is probably only 50 to 100 psi when making minor lane changes. You will not be even close to the 700 psi pressure relief setting. I don't have an explanation as to why your steering would feel better with the shims installed under the hex nut.
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Hmmmmmmmm.
Now you've got me wondering. I shimmed the valve a while ago. At the time it sure felt like the assist was reduced. This will drive me nuts now. I may have to find a pressure gauge and check it.
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