Replacement starter?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Greensboro NC
Replacement starter?
Someone posted, in the past, about using a late model GM truck starter to overcome the dreaded heat soak issue.
Anyone done this?
If so, what year & model truck would this be for?
Weather is getting nice and I need to get rid of this problem.
As an aside I am also planning on relocating the battery from the current behind the seat location to a new under the passenger fender location, due to a need for more interior room for stereo speakers/amps, utilizing a battery box.
Any thoughts there?
TIA
Anyone done this?
If so, what year & model truck would this be for?
Weather is getting nice and I need to get rid of this problem.
As an aside I am also planning on relocating the battery from the current behind the seat location to a new under the passenger fender location, due to a need for more interior room for stereo speakers/amps, utilizing a battery box.
Any thoughts there?
TIA
Team Owner
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From: Columbia Missouri
Someone posted, in the past, about using a late model GM truck starter to overcome the dreaded heat soak issue.
Anyone done this?
If so, what year & model truck would this be for?
Weather is getting nice and I need to get rid of this problem.
As an aside I am also planning on relocating the battery from the current behind the seat location to a new under the passenger fender location, due to a need for more interior room for stereo speakers/amps, utilizing a battery box.
Any thoughts there?
TIA
Anyone done this?
If so, what year & model truck would this be for?
Weather is getting nice and I need to get rid of this problem.
As an aside I am also planning on relocating the battery from the current behind the seat location to a new under the passenger fender location, due to a need for more interior room for stereo speakers/amps, utilizing a battery box.
Any thoughts there?
TIA
The starter is simple. It's just a GM mini starter used on factory cars and trucks. Works great.
Be careful about moving the battery. That plate at the bottom of the fender is not going to support a lot of weight, and it all needs to be beefed up to handle the weight. Shield it from the heat as much as you can too.
Le Mans Master
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From: Chattanooga TN
C4 TPI cars have the right starter also 95 Suburban as an example.
On moving the battery, Have you removed your heater box? It's pretty tight in there. Sounds like a pain to work on but a C3 has it right about there.
On moving the battery, Have you removed your heater box? It's pretty tight in there. Sounds like a pain to work on but a C3 has it right about there.
Pro
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From: ElP TX
Mini Starter
I put this 3HP MINI starter on. It kicks azz.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Greensboro NC
Wouldn't know the GM part number by any chance would you?
Doing a search at my local auto parts store has several "95 Suburban" starters....I'd like this to not be a trial & error deal....
Racer
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From: Warren IL
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And it doesn't solve the "heat-soak" problem in the least!
And it doesn't solve the "heat-soak" problem in the least!
This statement really amazes me! I am not a fan of Fords by any means but they got this one right. A remote solenoid (Ford) will cure most heat soak situations. Heat soak is caused by the solenoid and wires getting hot and add resistance. By putting a remote solenoid in you are able to jumper the B post to the S post on the starter and provide more current to the solenoid.The cheap and cost effective way to cure heat soak it a remote solenoid. If you truly need a new starter a gear reduction is the way to go but not to cure heat soak. They were designed to draw less current for higher compression engines. Hear are a few link were you can do some more research before spending spending unnecessary money on a new starter.
http://www.oldengine.org/unfaq/solenoid.htm
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...?post/1296629/
http://sa3go.proboards105.com/index....lay&thread=300
Race Director
Joined: Nov 2002
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From: Taylor Michigan
Where Do You Get a Heat Soaker?
I was under the impression a starter was to spin the engine, get combustion and spark, there by make the engine run. Not soak up "heat'. How do you tell when a starter has soaked up enough heat? Is there a full line on the case? Whats it`s capacity? Do you measure by lbs. Quarts maybe? or weight. Ya know, most of them are on the heavy side. Or coild there be or isi there a thermometer stick on the side?...
Le Mans Master
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From: Unreconstructed, South Carolina
If you have OE points ignition (like most 68-74 C3) you must MODIFY the late model Pickup/suburban permanent magnet starter (get one for a 96-99 w/ iron-head 350 or 454) ... modify as in have a different solenoid cap installed that has the extra terminal to boost the OE points coil for startup (correct "points" sol'd cap has 2 big posts & 2 little posts)... any competent local starter & alternator rebuilding shop can do it. Sorry no part #'s. My local (& quite rural) S&A shop sells brand new starters like above for $80 ... check w/ your local 1'st ... just ask 'em.
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No arguments but ... GM found the easy way to prevent heat soaked starters was to follow others' lead ... and use a permanent magnet starter ... eliminating heat soak-prone field coils. For years now, all GM passenger vehicles have PM starters with no FC.
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No arguments but ... GM found the easy way to prevent heat soaked starters was to follow others' lead ... and use a permanent magnet starter ... eliminating heat soak-prone field coils. For years now, all GM passenger vehicles have PM starters with no FC.
Last edited by jackson; Mar 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM.
