ZZ383 + 200 automatic - good combo?
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ZZ383 + 200 automatic - good combo?
I'm fairly sure I'll be doing the 383 thing soon. I'm looking for a little more efficiency than my 350TH can provide, and tearing everything apart to install a manual is not an option.
Is the 200 a good choice? With the 383 I shouldn't need the lower gearing of the 700, right?
Where can I buy a 200? My Summit catalog had parts for them but not the transmission itself.
As always, TIA for all helpful replies
Is the 200 a good choice? With the 383 I shouldn't need the lower gearing of the 700, right?
Where can I buy a 200? My Summit catalog had parts for them but not the transmission itself.
As always, TIA for all helpful replies
Last edited by PartTimeGenius; Apr 21, 2008 at 11:08 AM.
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I'm fairly sure I'll be doing the 383 thing soon. I'm looking for a little more efficiency than my 350TH can provide, and tearing everything apart to install a manual is not an option.
Is the 200 a good choice? With the 383 I shouldn't need the lower gearing of the 700, right?
Where can I buy a 200? My Summit catalog had parts for them but not the transmission itself.
As always, TIA for all helpful replies
Is the 200 a good choice? With the 383 I shouldn't need the lower gearing of the 700, right?
Where can I buy a 200? My Summit catalog had parts for them but not the transmission itself.
As always, TIA for all helpful replies
Team Owner
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From: Orange Park Florida
the shift kit you want is a Trans GO.....accept NO other....
make sure you get a 10-13 vane pump, the old 7 vane in my core was shot clean through....looked like it was used to pump concrete in there....
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Yeh, obviously from a V8/turbov6 car, with universal/chebby bellhousing so don't get messed up with a BPOC housing, wont fit chebby....
the shift kit you want is a Trans GO.....accept NO other....
make sure you get a 10-13 vane pump, the old 7 vane in my core was shot clean through....looked like it was used to pump concrete in there....
the shift kit you want is a Trans GO.....accept NO other....
make sure you get a 10-13 vane pump, the old 7 vane in my core was shot clean through....looked like it was used to pump concrete in there....
Burning Brakes
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From: Liberty Missouri
I am looking at doing the same swap so….. I am no expert, but I have done some research. The 383 I am building will be about 400-425 hp and the rear gear is a 355. My plan is to go with the 200r4 from BTO because of the ease of install. All of these things should be a consideration, if you are building a 300-horse motor with a 273 gear the 700r4 might be the way to go because of the lower first gear. You’ll find several different schools of thought on this subject. I would call BTO tell them what you have and let them explain the + and – for your application.
Le Mans Master
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From: Sewell NJ
I think you need to talk to a pro and get a better idea of the pros and cons of different trannys. A 200R4 tranny is good and can be built to handle a lot of horsepower. But the cost of modifying a 200R4 to handle 400+ horsepower can end up costing more than a mildly modified 700R4/4L60. Here is an example from gearstar.
In order to handle the same abuse as the above tranny this is what a 200R4 will cost.
2004R Lockup non-electric
Price: $5995.00*
Horse Power: 500
Stall: 2600-4500
Converter: 10" Lockup Racing
ALTO Redline Racing Frictions -TransGo Competition Reprogramming Shift Kit
GeatStar Full Race Shift Kit
Billet / Forward Drum
300M Indestructible Input Shaft
Hardened Heat Treated Stator Shaft
Expanded capacity bearing package
High capacity super duty center support and drum assembly
High Performance Super Servo Billet / Grand National
13 Vane High-Output Pump
High Load Sprag
.500 Boost Valve
ALTO Redline Band
Hardened Steels
Extreme Duty Springs & Sprags
Expanded Capacity Direct Clutch Drum Power Pack
Overdrive 4 Clutch Power Pack
Expanded Capacity Forward Clutch Drum Power Pack
The ultimate transmission for the street for highly modified motors. This package is designed for engines producing 300HP and up. It will allow repeated aggressive launches from a dead stop. This package is recommended for 355 / 383 / 396 / 400 / 454 / 502 . Naturally aspirated Chevy / Buick / Olds / Pontiac / Cadillac engines.
*Our transmissions come with 12 quarts of Premium Automaic Tramssmission. Final price will reflect this $75 charge.
This is just an example but you can see from above that, for the same power handling capability there is a $3K difference. this is why you have to be real honest with yourself regarding how this combo will be used and you have to be smart in where you put your money. Saving a few dollars on a tranny that's going to grenade is wasted money. Check out this site for more trannys and info
http://gearstar.net/
BTW, turn down your speakers first.
4L60 Lockup-non electric
Price: $2995.00*
Horse Power: 500
Stall: 2600-4500
Converter: 10" Lockup Racing
ALTO Redline Racing Frictions & Band
TransGo Competition Reprogramming Shift Kit
GearStar Full Race Shift Kit
300M Hardened Steel Shaft and Hardened Expanded Capacity Drum
Corvette Servo
13 Vane High-Output Pump
High Load Sprag
.500 Boost Valve
ALTO Redline Band
Monster Sungear shell
Hardened Steels
Extreme Duty Springs & Sprags
Expanded Capacity Direct Clutch Drum Power Pack
Overdrive 4 Clutch Power Pack
Expanded Capacity Forward Clutch Drum Power Pack
Sonnax Servo 3-4 “Superhold”
The ultimate transmission for the street for modified motors. This package is designed for engines producing 300HP and up. It will allow repeated aggressive launches from a dead stop. This package is recommended for 355 / 383 / 396 / 400 / 454. Naturally aspirated Chevrolet engines.
*Our transmissions come with 12 quarts of Premium Automaic Tramssmission. Final price will reflect this $75 charge.
Price: $2995.00*
Horse Power: 500
Stall: 2600-4500
Converter: 10" Lockup Racing
ALTO Redline Racing Frictions & Band
TransGo Competition Reprogramming Shift Kit
GearStar Full Race Shift Kit
300M Hardened Steel Shaft and Hardened Expanded Capacity Drum
Corvette Servo
13 Vane High-Output Pump
High Load Sprag
.500 Boost Valve
ALTO Redline Band
Monster Sungear shell
Hardened Steels
Extreme Duty Springs & Sprags
Expanded Capacity Direct Clutch Drum Power Pack
Overdrive 4 Clutch Power Pack
Expanded Capacity Forward Clutch Drum Power Pack
Sonnax Servo 3-4 “Superhold”
The ultimate transmission for the street for modified motors. This package is designed for engines producing 300HP and up. It will allow repeated aggressive launches from a dead stop. This package is recommended for 355 / 383 / 396 / 400 / 454. Naturally aspirated Chevrolet engines.
*Our transmissions come with 12 quarts of Premium Automaic Tramssmission. Final price will reflect this $75 charge.
2004R Lockup non-electric
Price: $5995.00*
Horse Power: 500
Stall: 2600-4500
Converter: 10" Lockup Racing
ALTO Redline Racing Frictions -TransGo Competition Reprogramming Shift Kit
GeatStar Full Race Shift Kit
Billet / Forward Drum
300M Indestructible Input Shaft
Hardened Heat Treated Stator Shaft
Expanded capacity bearing package
High capacity super duty center support and drum assembly
High Performance Super Servo Billet / Grand National
13 Vane High-Output Pump
High Load Sprag
.500 Boost Valve
ALTO Redline Band
Hardened Steels
Extreme Duty Springs & Sprags
Expanded Capacity Direct Clutch Drum Power Pack
Overdrive 4 Clutch Power Pack
Expanded Capacity Forward Clutch Drum Power Pack
The ultimate transmission for the street for highly modified motors. This package is designed for engines producing 300HP and up. It will allow repeated aggressive launches from a dead stop. This package is recommended for 355 / 383 / 396 / 400 / 454 / 502 . Naturally aspirated Chevy / Buick / Olds / Pontiac / Cadillac engines.
*Our transmissions come with 12 quarts of Premium Automaic Tramssmission. Final price will reflect this $75 charge.
http://gearstar.net/
BTW, turn down your speakers first.
Last edited by vettfixr; Apr 24, 2008 at 01:48 PM.
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,173
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From: Liberty Missouri
I think you need to talk to a pro and get a better idea of the pros and cons of different trannys. A 200R4 tranny is good and can be built to handle a lot of horsepower. But the cost of modifying a 200R4 to handle 400+ horsepower can end up costing more than a mildly modified 700R4/4L60. Here is an example from gearstar.
In order to handle the same abuse as the above tranny this is what a 200R4 will cost.
This is just an example but you can see from above that, for the same power handling capability there is a $3K difference. this is why you have to be real honest with yourself regarding how this combo will be used and you have to be smart in where you put your money. Saving a few dollars on a tranny that's going to grenade is wasted money. Check out this site for more trannys and info
http://gearstar.net/
BTW, turn down your speakers first.
In order to handle the same abuse as the above tranny this is what a 200R4 will cost.
This is just an example but you can see from above that, for the same power handling capability there is a $3K difference. this is why you have to be real honest with yourself regarding how this combo will be used and you have to be smart in where you put your money. Saving a few dollars on a tranny that's going to grenade is wasted money. Check out this site for more trannys and info
http://gearstar.net/
BTW, turn down your speakers first.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 9,206
Likes: 17
From: Sewell NJ
I am by no means a transmission guy, but is that not over kill for a street car with dot tires. The guys at BTO said a stage 2 would be fine for up to 450 hp and it’s not anywhere near that much money for the whole kit. Again this is my weakest area on a car the whole automatic tranny is black magic to me.
Yes, your right, this is probably overkill. But the point is that you should pick a tranny that is inherently strong enough at the beginning rather than pick a tranny that isn't suitable and try to build it up to handle the extra hp and torque.
I'm sure there are many other rebuilders that have better prices but I'll bet the rule still holds true even for them.
