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Lights on way here. Spoke with vendor. Lights work well in my application. Only thing I need to do is make sure flasher is an electronic flasher, not a thermal one since voltage pull is so low. Did that change already and just waiting now.
Talked to a guy at the vendor. He has them on his older Firebird. When I asked about being bright enough to shine through normal taillights, he said that there was no problem and that these things are awefully bright. I will let everyone know when installed.
Installed a set of these on my various trailers. They are bright and last forever. Most lamp manufacturers offer them as direct replacements. They are costly though at about 4X the cost of regular lamps. My first experience was when a tractor trailer unit had them on and when he stepped on the brakes I was amazed at how bright they were. Important in our snowy conditions.
Here goes my flame suit. They are bright, but are really aggravating when you are the one behind them. Ever drive up at a light, and the person in front is running them? Some are so bright, you have to squint your eyes.
Around here the damn things are on every bus, truck and traffic light. Very harsh, very digital. As Mack said they turn on in microseconds rather than hundreds of milliseconds making them very hard on the eyes, IMHO
And I notice they don't have as wide of a viewing angle as normal lamps, who cares if you're driving a bus, but I drive a little Vette!
I think for the money I will go to the halogen ones thankyouverymuch
They are appearing on most all publicly owned vehicles now, like buses. Most traffic lights are going to the LED's also. Reason: less power consumption, better visibility, long life.
Installed the tail lights. They are not any brighter, but I can say they are RED! compared to the now sickly looking red-orange of the standard tail light. Maybe the lens get old and faded (?) over time, but the new one, compared to the old one (with a 2357LL bulb) before replacing it was clearly an improvement.
Too cold tonight (20's) to be laying on the ground replacing the turn signal lights, but if they improve the color and give a rich amber color, I will be more than pleased. I like the bright amber running lights of later cars and expect that the amber LED's will achieve this desired result.
Wish I had a decent digital camera to post a picture, but don't.
What's the deal with the turn signal controls on our cars? Thermal or electric? Would I be able to put one on my 78, assuming nothing's been touched?
Any chance I could sucker a picture out of you? Especially one with only the parking lights on. I assume you replaced the front parking lights(in the grill) and the outer rear lights, mm?
-Steve
PS I remember the first time I changed the front grill lights in my car... one of the bulbs got froze in the socket. Had to smash the thing to bits to get it out.
Re: LED tail lights and turn signals (Pacin'California)
You do need an electrical flasher, not a thermal. They are the same shape, connectors, etc. Just the insides different. Any auto store should have what you need.
I only did the rear lights. Will do the front this weekend when warmer. No offense, but my turn lights are like yours, not real amber. I want a rich amber color, which I think these should provide, considering the difference in the rear tail lights. I had brighter normal bulbs in the rear and, when on flash or "dual filament", the red just washed out to a red-orange. Not now.