C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Leaking master cylinder (1981).

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 30, 2008 | 09:32 AM
  #1  
marroan2's Avatar
marroan2
Thread Starter
6th Gear
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default Leaking master cylinder (1981).

The master cylinder on my 1981 is leaking from the cap. I replaced the cap, seal and the straps and it still leaks. I also cleaned the top of the master cylinder to make sure that the cap has a clean smooth surface to mate with, and it still leaks. Has anyone had this problem or have any solutions before I replace the master cylinder?

Thanks,
Anthony
Reply
Old May 30, 2008 | 11:21 AM
  #2  
SH-60B's Avatar
SH-60B
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,989
Likes: 198
From: Meriden CT
Default

Try a new cover. Yours might be bent.
Reply
Old May 30, 2008 | 11:38 AM
  #3  
danno12345's Avatar
danno12345
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 258
Likes: 2
From: Boise ID
Default

Mine leaks too , I tried replacing the seal, but to no avail. The new cover thing seems like a good idea.

Dan
Reply
Old May 30, 2008 | 09:50 PM
  #4  
joshtried's Avatar
joshtried
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,038
Likes: 39
From: Denver, CO
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Default

this shouldnt matter, but is it overfull?
Reply
Old May 30, 2008 | 10:14 PM
  #5  
spedaleden's Avatar
spedaleden
Safety Car
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,359
Likes: 57
From: Mundelein Illinois
Default

Originally Posted by joshtried
this shouldnt matter, but is it overfull?


Keep fluid underneath the side wall of the mater cylinder and you should have no problem
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:23 AM
  #6  
marroan2's Avatar
marroan2
Thread Starter
6th Gear
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

The fluid is at the proper level, and I have tried a new cover, seal and the two straps that hold the cover in place. still leaks.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 10:06 AM
  #7  
Jud Chapin's Avatar
Jud Chapin
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
St. Jude 15 Year Donor
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 10,560
Likes: 439
From: Wellington, FL
St. Jude Donor '11 thru '25
Default

Did this leak just start or has it always done it? And are you sure it's not leaking at the lines or at the rear?
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:37 AM
  #8  
marroan2's Avatar
marroan2
Thread Starter
6th Gear
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

this leak started about a year ago. it is definitely from the cap. If I put a wedge between the cap and strap it slows down.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 01:23 PM
  #9  
Jud Chapin's Avatar
Jud Chapin
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
St. Jude 15 Year Donor
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 10,560
Likes: 439
From: Wellington, FL
St. Jude Donor '11 thru '25
Default

I'd replace the m/c.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 01:50 PM
  #10  
wattac2's Avatar
wattac2
Racer
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 286
Likes: 1
From: Mesa az
Default Cap and Seal Thought

If the seal is working like it's designed, it should not only be fluid-tight, but also air tight. The seal should have "balloon" sections that will expand into each of the resevoirs as the fluid level drops due to use and brake wear. The cover has holes that allows air in and out. The cap is NOT designed to be air tight, and in fact has to allow air in so that as the fluid drops the MC maintains atmospheric pressure. I've seen small indentions on the perimeter of the cap to allow air in, and also holes in the top of the two domes. The air goes into the top of the seal pushing it down into the resevoirs. The seal should keep air and contaminants out of the fluid, but must be flexible to allow for proper operation of the brakes.

Is the new seal you installed a solid piece of rubber that covers both resevoirs? Does it have the "balloon" sections that can move in to fill the resevoirs as the fluid level drops? Does the cap fit snuggly all the way around the top of the MC? Are your brakes working correctly? Does the fluid level seem to increase in the MC after extended use? If the system is somehow generating pressure in the MC it could "blow" the seal and force fluid out.

Just some thoughts.

Andy
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 03:48 PM
  #11  
marroan2's Avatar
marroan2
Thread Starter
6th Gear
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

The new seal is a solid one piece that covers both reservoirs and has the balloon sections. The braking system losses a little fluid over time do to a slight leak from one of the caliper piston seals ( I plan on rebuilding or replacing this caliper and if needed replace the MC at the same time). The cap fits snuggly all the way around the top of the MC. The leak occur regardless of trying three different seals, and two different caps/straps. The brakes work good however the pedal is a little low. I believe the reason for this is some air getting in the line from the leaking piston seal.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:07 PM
  #12  
dannyman's Avatar
dannyman
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,669
Likes: 3
From: Kingston Ontario
Default

Fix your leak first and then check for MC leak. Sounds as if the run-out may be beyond limits and you may have air being sucked into the brake system which causes the leak at the MC.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:11 PM
  #13  
kdf1986's Avatar
kdf1986
Safety Car
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,652
Likes: 80
From: Lakeland Florida
Default

Instead of looking at the seals, look at the perimeter edge of the master cylinder with the top off. Run your finger around it and look for some type of abrasion, or a scratch mark.

If it is scratched then a leak could develop as this will not seal correctly and will not hold a vacuum.

kdf
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:44 AM
  #14  
wallifishrmn's Avatar
wallifishrmn
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,084
Likes: 8
From: Illinois
Default

I just bought a brand new MC and am having the same problem--small amount of fluid leaking from the top. Their suggestion was to check the edges for any rough areas and bend the two peices of metal that snap over the cover to hold it down.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:37 PM
  #15  
billsfan's Avatar
billsfan
Racer
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 396
Likes: 3
From: Buffalo New York
Default

Walli- did you fix the problem? I've got a leaky cover, I replaced the gasket and bent the holddowns, still leaks. Is the MC reservoir under pressure when you step on the brakes?
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:07 PM
  #16  
crossfire1982's Avatar
crossfire1982
Advanced
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 83
Likes: 2
From: Cramerton NC
Default

Guys, I realize this is an old thread but Im having the exact same problem. Ive replaced the master with a new Delco unit, still leaks at the cap. Ive used 3 different caps with 3 different cap gaskets and 3 sets of bails and it still leaks at the back of the cap closest to the booster. The mating surfaces of the gaskets and the top of the master are not deformed in any way. Im not overfilling the master. My brakes work fine but the brake fluid comes out of the rear bowl of the master and drips down the back of the master, gets on the front of the booster and then drips off of the bottom of the master and booster all over my chassis and everything underneath. Any ideas? Id like to know if Marroan2 ever got his problem fixed if he is still on the fourm.
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:11 PM
  #17  
Rebelrob's Avatar
Rebelrob
Drifting
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,532
Likes: 14
From: Dallas-Fort Worth TX
Default

Guess... what... Mine is leaking to. Very slightly but its leaking. I ran my finger underneath the MC today and I had a few drops on the end of my finger. Its a new MC and new brakes all around. Brakes great, pedal is tight. I am really happy with the stopping performance so far. But the leak does concern me. I did notice that my new MC did have some edges underneath the cap. The cap clamps seem to be very tight. Although the leak is not bad enough to ever reach the ground. The area around the cap seem to have some reddish/rusty residue where Its leaking. The fluid level seems ok. Not sure how full your suppose have the MC. But both resevoirs look to be full.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2017 | 08:53 AM
  #18  
Adam2's Avatar
Adam2
1st Gear
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: Fort myers Florida
Default Did you fix it ??

Originally Posted by crossfire1982
Guys, I realize this is an old thread but Im having the exact same problem. Ive replaced the master with a new Delco unit, still leaks at the cap. Ive used 3 different caps with 3 different cap gaskets and 3 sets of bails and it still leaks at the back of the cap closest to the booster. The mating surfaces of the gaskets and the top of the master are not deformed in any way. Im not overfilling the master. My brakes work fine but the brake fluid comes out of the rear bowl of the master and drips down the back of the master, gets on the front of the booster and then drips off of the bottom of the master and booster all over my chassis and everything underneath. Any ideas? Id like to know if Marroan2 ever got his problem fixed if he is still on the fourm.
Did anyone ever find a fix for this problem it's making me craxy !!!
Thank you amitchell4447@yahoo.com
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2020 | 03:20 PM
  #19  
Blondie - C3's Avatar
Blondie - C3
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 76
Likes: 3
From: Canton Michigan
Default MC fill line

I'm trying to find the max line on the master cylinder. I am not having any luck. Does anyone have a photo or know if it is on the inside side or on the inside front or back?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Leaking master cylinder (1981).





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:53 AM.

story-0
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-1
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-4
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-5
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-7
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE