C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Posing another headlight problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:48 PM
  #1  
mailbox1024's Avatar
mailbox1024
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Linden NJ
Default Posing another headlight problem

Have a 1972 Corvette. Each time i start the car, my headlights pop up. I have the routing and troubleshooting book, all the hoses seem to be hooked up and in good shape. The headlights will not go down on their own either after i turn off the engine. I was just wondering if anyone out there has had a similar problem and can point me in the right direction as to a possible fix or where to look. The lights have always worked well in the past until this year. Yes, i can turn the lights on, and yes i have checked the manual overide switch for malfunction and it is not in the overide position.
Thanks in advance for any ideas.....Ron
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 01:27 PM
  #2  
...Roger...'s Avatar
...Roger...
Race Director
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 16,528
Likes: 53
From: Dayton, Ohio
Default

You have a leak in the system if they work with the engine running but wont do 1 cycle after the engine is off.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 03:38 PM
  #3  
sweethence's Avatar
sweethence
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,319
Likes: 7
From: Wilmington DE, Drive it like you stole it, 68 327 4 speed coupe
Default

Sounds like a bad check valve to me


Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 06:23 PM
  #4  
hugie82's Avatar
hugie82
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,652
Likes: 49
From: Bridgewater nj
Default

Mine use to stick in the up position. I had to lift up on it and then let go to make it go down. I replaced the plastic bushings and lubed her up. Works good now.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 11:12 AM
  #5  
mailbox1024's Avatar
mailbox1024
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Linden NJ
Default

No, mine move easily up and down, only problem is when i 1st start engine the headlights pop up but they do not go down when i turn off the engine.
No vacuum leaks either, checked entire system and hoses fairly new as well.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 11:13 AM
  #6  
mailbox1024's Avatar
mailbox1024
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Linden NJ
Default

Any idea which check valve? And how can i isolate it?
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 11:17 AM
  #7  
...Roger...'s Avatar
...Roger...
Race Director
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 16,528
Likes: 53
From: Dayton, Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by mailbox1024
No, mine move easily up and down, only problem is when i 1st start engine the headlights pop up but they do not go down when i turn off the engine.
No vacuum leaks either, checked entire system and hoses fairly new as well.
Your not getting vacuum on the small white stripped hose going out to the relays between the headlights.Do you have your pulldown pushed in?
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 11:55 PM
  #8  
mailbox1024's Avatar
mailbox1024
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Linden NJ
Default

no, the hold down is not pushed in. That was the 1st thing i checked.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jun 14, 2008 | 07:34 AM
  #9  
...Roger...'s Avatar
...Roger...
Race Director
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 16,528
Likes: 53
From: Dayton, Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by mailbox1024
no, the hold down is not pushed in. That was the 1st thing i checked.
You say it is not pushed in.
The pulldown valve under the dash "needs" to be pushed in or up.
If it is pulled out or down it is locking the headlights in the up position.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:12 AM
  #10  
mailbox1024's Avatar
mailbox1024
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Linden NJ
Default

I tried pushing the manual valve both up and down, still the same problem. I am at a huge loss for any relief. Please help with any other suggestions...Ron
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:17 AM
  #11  
TopGunn's Avatar
TopGunn
Drifting
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 4
From: Somers CT
Default

Originally Posted by sweethence
Sounds like a bad check valve to me


I agree, replace the check valve in the main vac line.

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...7&dept_id=1326
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:20 AM
  #12  
sweethence's Avatar
sweethence
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,319
Likes: 7
From: Wilmington DE, Drive it like you stole it, 68 327 4 speed coupe
Default

Originally Posted by TopGunn
I agree, replace the check valve in the main vac line.

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...7&dept_id=1326
the check valve is located right off of teh manifold vaccuum fitting right after a short piece of hose

Reply
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 05:08 PM
  #13  
wjsullivan's Avatar
wjsullivan
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: Warrenville IL
Default

My '75 has a similar issue. I've isolated it to two items, the override valve and the main switch.

My override valve was shot. When I replaced it I also put some rtv on it to make sure I had a really good seal. The issue got better.

The main switch in the dash is also an issue. I ran into a guy who was buying his 2nd replacement switch for his '74. He showed me the switch. It had two parts that appeared to be pressed together (top and bottom I think). On his previous 2 switches that press fit had failed so this time he was going to put some rtv on the seam to make sure it stayed sealed.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 05:26 PM
  #14  
thegazman's Avatar
thegazman
Drifting
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 2
From: Lewisburg WV
Default thegazman

You mentioned that your lights do not go down when you turn off the engine. What might help you with trouble shooting to understand that vacuum closes the headlights and lack of vacuum allows them to spring open. If they are closed when you shut the engine off and open after the car sets for awhile your check valve is probably leaking air into the vacuum system. The reason the lights close with vacuum is to allow you to still have headlights at night if a hose came of or something breaks in the vacuum system. It would be tough driving on a curvy road at night and all of sudden your lights closed.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:45 PM
  #15  
mailbox1024's Avatar
mailbox1024
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Linden NJ
Default

Fixed the problem. Had no vacuum at the headlight switch. Routed a new hose w/ vacuum to the headlight switch, it cured the problem. Headlights work fine now!

thanks all for the input.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 06:52 PM
  #16  
Sully1882's Avatar
Sully1882
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 5
From: Fayetteville Arkansas
Default

you lucky dog.... ha ha... i still can't figure out what is wrong with mine... mine is doing the same thing where the headlights pop up upon starting the car without pulling any switch... and do not go down when I do pull the switch and then push it back in....although I did find that my check valve is bad, but from what I understand with the vac system that would not be the cause of the small white vac line not sending vacuum to the relay and causing the headlights to pop up... I guess i will have to pull my headlight switch again and check the vacuum there like MAILBOX1024 did... any other ideas????


thanks

sully

Last edited by Sully1882; Jun 18, 2008 at 06:55 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2008 | 08:48 PM
  #17  
mailbox1024's Avatar
mailbox1024
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Linden NJ
Default

Actually i found mine by accident. When i was looking under the dash at the manual switch, i unplugged the vacuum ports at both ends of the manual over ride and i put them together. The headlights instantly dropped down and went back up when i unplugged the vacuum. This told me i was not getting vacuum at the headlight switch. I removed the dash to get access to the headlight switch, found no vacuum at either port. So i installed a T fitting and tapped into the wiper door vacuum, (which was eliminated when i bought the car a few years ago anyway), and then the headlight switch activated the headlight doors upon my command and not when i start the engine.
Just lucky i guess.

Ron...NJ
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Posing another headlight problem





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:04 PM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE