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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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I am replacing the under-car exhaust system (427/435) and am a bit confused about 2"-2.5"/replacement/high performance mufflers.

I want to use 2.5" pipes and would like as good performance as possible without crazy loudness.

The replacement mufflers in all the catalogs look like the inlet pipe is initially 2.5 inches, but appears to shrink down to 2" where it is integrated into the muffler. This looks very restrictive to me (why use 2.5" pipes if the thing gets squeezed into 2" at the muffler?).

Are there high performance mufflers that actually retain the 2.5" diameter into/through the muffler? Does it matter?

If there are some options out there please let me know and point me to the right place.

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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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I agree that the replacement mufflers with the 2 inch outlet are more restrictive than the aftermarkets with 2 1/2 inlet and outlets. If you pick an aftermarket muffler, you will probably need to do some fabrication to make it work.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Contact Mike Allen at Allen's Stainless Exhaust Systems. They make a true 2-1/2" muffler. I have one of his systems on my '74.

http://www.allencorvetteexhaustsystems.com/
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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I am in the process of installing a 2.5 inch system that I bought from corvette central.

I did not find out that their 'end to end 2.5 inch system' has mufflers with 2 inch outlets. However ridiculous it may sound, corvette central still sells them as their end to end 2.5 inch systems.

I don't mean to say that Magnaflow mufflers are bad. Magnaflow makes great mufflers and there are a few 2.5 inch universal fit mufflers that will fit a 69 corvette.

The best way to go is to get a good muffler shop bent mandrel bent pipes and hook them up with a pair of mangnaflow or dynomax mufflers with 2.5 inlet and outlets.

Allens is certainly a good option.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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i wonder what effect the cooling of the exhaust gases has on their real-life volume, and the restriction of a 2" muffler output pipe? maybe the generals engineers know more than we think.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jnb5101
i wonder what effect the cooling of the exhaust gases has on their real-life volume, and the restriction of a 2" muffler output pipe? maybe the generals engineers know more than we think.
You mean.. by the time the exhaust gases reach the tip, it would have cooled down and a 2 inch outlet would be enough to let the same volume of exhaust gas to pass through?

Strong argument there...
I guess the only way to find out is to do some dyno tests...
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The stock tips (and the stock replacement tips) for 68/69 start at 2" .
What my exhaust guy did for me is he cut off the 2" section of the exhaust tip (see the picture) and welded the remaining piece to the end of my muffler. It is a touch shorter than stock... which you don't really notice, but I retain the 2.5" diameter.

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Originally Posted by PRNDL
The stock tips (and the stock replacement tips) for 68/69 start at 2" .
What my exhaust guy did for me is he cut off the 2" section of the exhaust tip (see the picture) and welded the remaining piece to the end of my muffler. It is a touch shorter than stock... which you don't really notice, but I retain the 2.5" diameter.

But your muffler already had a 2.5 inch outlet.. correct?
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Originally Posted by jnb5101
i wonder what effect the cooling of the exhaust gases has on their real-life volume, and the restriction of a 2" muffler output pipe? maybe the generals engineers know more than we think.
or maybe they were trying to save money and put 2" exhaust on all 69 vettes, even the L-88s...
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Originally Posted by rajsid
But your muffler already had a 2.5 inch outlet.. correct?
ahhhh... correct.. I have flowmaster mufflers. If the mufflers have 2" outlets that is an additional problem.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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I have the Super Turbo's and they are true 2 & 1/2" inlet/outlet with center/offset version. Then had custom stainless tips made that were also 2 &1/2".
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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I would agree that the temp reduction from engine to exhaust outlet would more than account for the size reduction. The 2.5" header pipe has gases at a few hundred degrees...outlet temps are less than half of that. 2" outlet pipes shouldn't cause a restriction problem.
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