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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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So I just recently got my car somewhat tuned and drivable since I bought it and did a cam swap. The car is a 75 vette with ported heads here are the specs on the cam

Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift: 244
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift: 254
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 244 int./254 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration: 302
Advertised Exhaust Duration: 312
Advertised Duration: 302 int./312 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.510 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.533 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.510 int./0.533 exh. lift
Lobe Separation (degrees): 114

A performer intake and a holley 750 vacuum secondary carb
I want to throw on some AFR's in the future and I wanted to only buy one carb. But the car doesn’t seem to have the power I thought It would. It might be a gearing issue but I was just wondering if its to much carb
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Until you put on the AFR heads and raise the compression ratio the cam is to big for your car. If your gears are in the low 3s that cam is to much. You need at least 3.55 better yet 3.70s or better with that cam. The intake is going to also be a restriction with that cam. That is a big cam for your combo.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Ya I know its a really big Cam. I want to run 390's I would look into a single plane intake put do any fit under the hood?
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Originally Posted by 75_yellow
Ya I know its a really big Cam. I want to run 390's I would look into a single plane intake put do any fit under the hood?
The Victor Jr. is the same height as the Performer RPM which has fit under my buddys stock 73 hood. I run a Victor Jr. on mine but I have the LT1 hood.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Ok so the vic jr will work... so how do you like the intake? Anything i need to no about running one?
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Yeah you need the whole package not just bit and pieces. If you want to stay with that cam get some AFR 195 Eliminators and bump up the compression to 11:1 and with the Vic Jr you are looking at 400-450 HP
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Great thats what i wanted to hear! Im 20 and in the navy so money is alittle tight since im trying to buy a house here in san diego so im trying to add one part at a time... Hope it all works out
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Good luck to you Food and roof over the head come first
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So do you think the carb is the right size? for what i plan on doing
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I just got ahold of a guy that want to let go of his victor E intake for 50 bucks? How about that for my setup? will it clear the stock hood
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The carb will run just fine - the stock Q-Jet is 750 cfm. With the vacuum secondary Holley, you can err on the big side and not have any drivability issues. Once you get the whole package put together you're going to want to put the light, white spring in the secondary side to get those secondaries fully open. If you're running the stock spring in the carb you're probably barely cracking the secondaries open at all right now, so your carb is likely providing about 500 cfm on a good day...
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the e intake is for fuel injection i think
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
Yeah you need the whole package not just bit and pieces. If you want to stay with that cam get some AFR 195 Eliminators and bump up the compression to 11:1 and with the Vic Jr you are looking at 400-450 HP
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Right now i have the yellow spring in it. Second lighest it bogged real bad with the white spring.


As far as the E intake i thought it was to but if you look they made an none EFI one
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Originally Posted by 75_yellow
Right now i have the yellow spring in it. Second lighest it bogged real bad with the white spring.


As far as the E intake i thought it was to but if you look they made an none EFI one
No matter what carb or intake. Without the heads a victor intake will make things worse not better. You need more compression, more head flow and more rear end gear to match that cam. Worring about the carb or secondary spring at this time when the combo is all wrong is silly?
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Ya i suppose it is. The carb was used so i was just trying to get it running right so when i do put the heads on it would run right.. I thought the ported heads would have helped alittle bit but i suppose its in the compession. Btw where is the stamp with the code for the rear end cause i have no idea whats out back.. Im quessing like 308's
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Ya i suppose it is. The carb was used so i was just trying to get it running right so when i do put the heads on it would run right.. I thought the ported heads would have helped alittle bit but i suppose its in the compession. Btw where is the stamp with the code for the rear end cause i have no idea whats out back.. Im quessing like 308's

as a basic rule of thumb as the cam duration grows the amount of overlap of the opening of the intake and exhaust valves increases and the bleeding off of cylinder pressure gives you a lower dynamic compression ratio. Bigger cam = a need for more static cylinder comression. That is why the cam manufacturer gives you a recomended static comression ratio for each cam (ususally). Now the flow of the heads determines how efficient you pump is (the engine is a pump of sorts). The more CFM potential in the heads the more hp potential. Based on these flow numbers you select a cam to match (the size of the motor factors in here) and dial in the comression to the package. It isn't really as simple as just picking some parts. That is why you see some guys making way more hp with a correct 350 than other guys do with a wrong 383 for example. A forum like this is a good starting point since many people has done the research and come up with some good combos. There are probably SBC specific engine forums where the guys really could dial you in.

Oh yea I have no idea what gears you have but I suspect a vette that year has some freeway flyers like 308 in it.
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