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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Will the Bowtie Overdrive 2004R Stage III be a good match for 550HP/500TQ?

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Originally Posted by DEMITRISTYLES
Will the Bowtie Overdrive 2004R Stage III be a good match for 550HP/500TQ?


Don't they offer safe HP ranges for their transmissions? I would assume their stage III would handle that kind of power.
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If it won't, I know the 4L80E will handle that and more.

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I hate to do this, but in fair warning to another potentiel dissatisfied customer, I must.

I purchased a 700r4 level 3 from them rated at 600 hp/ 600 lbs with them fully aware of my power levels. I sent them links to my website, talked to them and was assured it would hold. I installed per the instructions, called in to confirm pressure readings, and drove it for exactly five days with ginger throttle to insure no leaks, overheating, or shift issues.

Then I flogged a 6500 rpm 2/3 shift on the way home and heard a horrific crunch. Long story short they found a loop hole in the warranty, and refused to honor it. I ran an external tranny cooler instead of going through the radiator. A local trans shop confirmed there was ample cooling, and the cause of failure was not heat related.

I now run a full manual th400 with a 3000 stall and have no fear of ripping 7000 rpm shifts with it.

Nuff said.

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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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4L80e is your tranny, no choice......

heavy, but you need the torque input rating....anything else will blow sky high....may even injure you....

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Originally Posted by DEMITRISTYLES
Will the Bowtie Overdrive 2004R Stage III be a good match for 550HP/500TQ?

I think I would look to other Vendors for a quality TC with high efficiency 9.5 inch 3500 stall and multi lockup clutch plates.

Bowties Best is some substandard 3000 stall
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http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm

I used the 3 plate 9.5 3500 stall for many years from Art Carr, but these are similar and about $300 cheaper

How are you getting 550 hp?
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Originally Posted by gkull
http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm

I used the 3 plate 9.5 3500 stall for many years from Art Carr, but these are similar and about $300 cheaper

How are you getting 550 hp?
What do you mean by how?
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Originally Posted by The Money Pit
I hate to do this, but in fair warning to another potentiel dissatisfied customer, I must.

I purchased a 700r4 level 3 from them rated at 600 hp/ 600 lbs with them fully aware of my power levels. I sent them links to my website, talked to them and was assured it would hold. I installed per the instructions, called in to confirm pressure readings, and drove it for exactly five days with ginger throttle to insure no leaks, overheating, or shift issues.

Then I flogged a 6500 rpm 2/3 shift on the way home and heard a horrific crunch. Long story short they found a loop hole in the warranty, and refused to honor it. I ran an external tranny cooler instead of going through the radiator. A local trans shop confirmed there was ample cooling, and the cause of failure was not heat related.

I now run a full manual th400 with a 3000 stall and have no fear of ripping 7000 rpm shifts with it.

Nuff said.
They sell crap trannys.
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They sell crap trannys.
ok, then BTO is out. It sounds like the TV cable is just another thing I have to worry about, adjust and keep my eye on just to keep it alive.

Sheesh! I might as well just put a 3000 stall into my TH350C and drive it until it fails. I'm not sure anything beats the TH400 strength wise.

Crap, I might just go for a TKO-600. I'll change my mind 100 times over until it is time to purchase something.
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Find a quality 2004R builder for the GNs.....they have been putting modded rides with those HP numbers down the strips for a long time.

The torq numbers those turbo guys lay down are impressive.
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Originally Posted by DEMITRISTYLES
Will the Bowtie Overdrive 2004R Stage III be a good match for 550HP/500TQ?

Here is the original Art Carr
http://www.cpttransmission.com/

FYI: I have never had any experience, but you might want to research them.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ylose
Find a quality 2004R builder for the GNs.....they have been putting modded rides with those HP numbers down the strips for a long time.

The torq numbers those turbo guys lay down are impressive.
Artie who formerly worked at Dynotech builds some really nice 2004R on some really fast GN's is currently building my 2004R. This guy really knows his stuff. Its hard to find a reputable trans builder. I have seen this guys work. He is a member on this forum as NJVetteGuy.

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If you want the best of the best, (in my opinion) contact Bowler Transmissions and talk to Mark Bowler (the owner) about what he might recommend. He helped me with my 4l80e trans behind my twin turbo big block.
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