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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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This is the first time I've done brake work on my corvette myself. When I was taking the back left pads off of the calipers and pushed the pistons back in, fluid came out around the front piston. Does this mean I need to change or rebuild at least both back calipers? Thanks.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Corvette brakes! Chances are that you have a rusty caliper piston bore. Water gets in old brake fluid due to condensation and begins to rust piston bores in the calipers. Check the back of the tire and backing plate for traces of brake fluid. (Ask me how I know...) If you look at any Corvette parts websites, you will see calipers that have been rebuilt or produced with stainless steel piston bores to prevent rust and leakage. If your budget allows I would recommend purchasing new calipers or quality rebuilds with stainless sleeves versus rebuilding them yourself. Remember, brakes have to work every time!
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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I rebuilt my right rear caliper to make it to a once a year car show. Now I'm about to do all 4 again, with new springs, cups, seals, etc. My cups corroded pretty bad. The one that I did do, still works after 200 miles or so. It's really not that hard, take your time and inspect, inspect, inspect. Clean all the reusable parts and get after it.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Corvette brakes! Chances are that you have a rusty caliper piston bore. Water gets in old brake fluid due to condensation and begins to rust piston bores in the calipers. Check the back of the tire and backing plate for traces of brake fluid. (Ask me how I know...) If you look at any Corvette parts websites, you will see calipers that have been rebuilt or produced with stainless steel piston bores to prevent rust and leakage. If your budget allows I would recommend purchasing new calipers or quality rebuilds with stainless sleeves versus rebuilding them yourself. Remember, brakes have to work every time!
So this means I need new calipers then if the piston bores are leaking?
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Yes, they either need a quality rebuild or to be replaced. I purchased quality rebuilds for my car. By the time you buy all of the parts and tools plus your time, it just makes sense to replace them IMHO. This is a very common problem with these cars. I'm sure just about every C3 owner has had leaky caliper issues at one time or another. Do you notice any fluid residue anywhere? If you see some, you'll know that that caliper has been leaking for some time. Also be sure to bleed all of the old brake fluid out of the system while you're at it. It contains the moisture that most likely caused the problem of rust in the piston bore.
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Yes, they either need a quality rebuild or to be replaced. I purchased quality rebuilds for my car. By the time you buy all of the parts and tools plus your time, it just makes sense to replace them IMHO. This is a very common problem with these cars. I'm sure just about every C3 owner has had leaky caliper issues at one time or another. Do you notice any fluid residue anywhere? If you see some, you'll know that that caliper has been leaking for some time. Also be sure to bleed all of the old brake fluid out of the system while you're at it. It contains the moisture that most likely caused the problem of rust in the piston bore.
Will I need to bench bleed the master cylinder or just bleed all the fluid out? This will be the first time I've ever bled Corvette brakes.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lightemup
Yes, they either need a quality rebuild or to be replaced. I purchased quality rebuilds for my car. By the time you buy all of the parts and tools plus your time, it just makes sense to replace them IMHO. This is a very common problem with these cars. I'm sure just about every C3 owner has had leaky caliper issues at one time or another. Do you notice any fluid residue anywhere? If you see some, you'll know that that caliper has been leaking for some time. Also be sure to bleed all of the old brake fluid out of the system while you're at it. It contains the moisture that most likely caused the problem of rust in the piston bore.
Don't take offense, but I'm not a R&R tech. (remove and replace) I liked the thought of rebuilding my brakes myself. I spent just over $100 for pistons, springs, and seals, all 16. While I'm at it, I'm going to pull the rear axles and replace the parking brake hardware, about $60, I think.
But that said, my piston bores in the right rear were clean, and no rust. I can hope that the other 3 are the same, if not, plan B.

The master cylinder won't have to be bled, if there is no problem with it prior to the caliper issue. Vette Brakes and Products (vbandp.com) has all the parts and pretty good prices too.
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Originally Posted by Fubba
Will I need to bench bleed the master cylinder or just bleed all the fluid out? This will be the first time I've ever bled Corvette brakes.
You will not need to remove the master cylinder to bleed the brake system. Bleeding the brake system is not difficult, even for a beginner. However it's probably more than can be covered in this thread. Do a little research in some do-it-yourself manuals or maybe even search for a thread about the topic previously posted here on the CF. Btw, you never did say if you saw any traces of fluid near the area of suspected bad caliper. Were the pads, caliper, rotor, backing plate or back of the tire stained with fluid?
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If your calipers are stainless steel sleeved (not original to the car) then you can most likely rebuild them. If your calipers are the originals carefully inspect the bores. Chances are rebuilding them will not be successful if any corrosion or pitting is present. Replace them with a quality remanufactured SS Sleeved caliper like VBP's product. Replace all four of the flexible rubber brake lines at the same time too. Save youself the "learning experience" of putting everything back together, bleeding the system, and a few days later an old weak hose blows out on you and you are back bleeding your brakes again and maybe replacing a set of brand new pads soaked with brake fluid. Oh, and invest in a Motive Brake Bleeder. Makes bleeding Corvette brakes almost fun.
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I had never done a brake job before ever, and everything depends on what you want to do. I was in your same boat too. All I wanted to do was change the pads but it turned out in the end it was more practical to get new pads, calipers, hoses, mastercylinder, and bolts for the calipers. I dont know the shape of your car but it is a very new learning proccess. It is alot better to do it all at once if you have the cash. Also, if one is leaking chances are that you will be fixing another one not to far from now. Thats just my long opinion. good luck
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