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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Will a Vic Jr fit under a 1977 hood? My current Performer AirGap will fit with a drop base.

If I use the Vic Jr I will then have to forget about using the Qjet that Lars rebuilt for me?

What carb would you recommend for a 406 with afr195's and an aggressive hydraulic roller cam?

What linkage and fuel line changes will be required? I was trying to avoid these issues by using the Qjet.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Mine's an 80, and I've run the Performer, the RPM, and Vic Jr under the stock hood with a drop base air cleaner. You will need lots of mods to linkages, fuel lines,etc. Then when you're done. drive it for a while, then scratch your head and ask yourself "What was I thinking?", you'll end up putting the RPM back on.

The Q-Jet is a great carb, but would not keep up with my 406, so I went Holley 3310, and have quite a bit of tuning (jet changes, IFR's, IAB's, main body, billet metering blocks, powervalve) My cam is a solid Isky that will tip 7000 plus rpms, so I needed tons of fuel.

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I have done actual back to back dyno tests with a RPM Air Gap and Vic Jr on my old warmed over 355ci. Contrary to popular belief the Vic Jr made more peak torque and horespower and obviously the most power gained was in the the upper RPM's.

Now we are not talking enormous amounts of power here only a few HP and Ft/lbs, the RPM Air Gap is a very good intake. I would assume the Vic Jr would pick up much more over the Performer Air Gap

One cam I have always liked if I were to go to a hydraulic roller is the CC 286HR Magnum, it has only 230 deg duration but big lift. A forum member has it in his big inch small block and he says he loves it

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myc#,
If you're interested in selling the Air Gap, I'd like to hear from you. I am planning on fitting one to my '74, but they're a bit rare down here, and the vendors charge accordingly. Please let me know.

Regards from Down Under

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You will need lots of mods to linkages, fuel lines,etc. Then when you're done. drive it for a while, then scratch your head and ask yourself "What was I thinking?", you'll end up putting the RPM back on.

The Q-Jet is a great carb, but would not keep up with my 406, so I went Holley 3310, and have quite a bit of tuning (jet changes, IFR's, IAB's, main body, billet metering blocks, power valve) My cam is a solid Isky that will tip 7000 plus rpms, so I needed tons of fuel.
If I go with the Vic jr. and either the Holley 3310 or the Mighty Demon carb what linkage, fuel line and fuel pump mods will I need?

It sounds like several members are saying that the Lars built Qjet will not keep up with a 550 -600 hp 406. Is this because of the single inlet on the Qjet or the new stock fuel pump or both? The stock fuel pumps were sufficient for big block corvettes why not a 406?

What if I remove the filter at the carb and insert a large inline filter would that help?

Will the low profile Vic jr. fit under the hood of a 77 with an adapter for a Qjet and a drop base filter?

Should I just bite the bullet and go Vic Jr with Holley or Mighty Demon or will a 550 - 600 hp 406 be ok with a RPM Air Gap and a Lars built Qjet?
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If I go with the Vic jr. and either the Holley 3310 or the Mighty Demon carb what linkage, fuel line and fuel pump mods will I need?

It sounds like several members are saying that the Lars built Qjet will not keep up with a 550 -600 hp 406. Is this because of the single inlet on the Qjet or the new stock fuel pump or both? The stock fuel pumps were sufficient for big block corvettes why not a 406?

What if I remove the filter at the carb and insert a large inline filter would that help?

Will the low profile Vic jr. fit under the hood of a 77 with an adapter for a Qjet and a drop base filter?

Should I just bite the bullet and go Vic Jr with Holley or Mighty Demon or will a 550 - 600 hp 406 be ok with a RPM Air Gap and a Lars built Qjet?
I looked into modding the Q-Jet a bit, but it's been a long time. I remember quite a few sites recommending larger fuel inlet valves / seats, and smaller floats, I assume to allow more fuel in the bowl, and a faster fill rate. When I was recurving the distributer, and making quite a few pulls through the gears, I found the Q-Jet not able to keep the 406 pulling in the upper rpms. I swapped on a box stock Holley 3310, and the problem was immediately resolved. I assume it was because the Holley had two bowls,dual feed fuel lines, and possibly richer jetting.

You can try the stock pump if you want, but I replaced mine with the Holley 130 gph mechanical pump while I was at it. Not that much money, and is rated twice what the stock pump delivers.
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It sounds like several members are saying that the Lars built Qjet will not keep up with a 550 -600 hp 406. Is this because of the single inlet on the Qjet or the new stock fuel pump or both? The stock fuel pumps were sufficient for big block corvettes why not a 406?
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I'm gonna say the extra accelerator pump for the secondaries in the holley is your answer.
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