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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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I realize that it is illegal to remove or disable the converter. However, I still would like to know if there is a way to disable the catalytic converter on my 1980. The purpose for doing something to the converter is to improve the exhaust sound. A friend said I should just take a crowbar to the inside of the converter. Is this effective? Will it improve the exhaust sound?
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Is your friend's name Bubba?
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Is your friend's name Bubba?

Not a good way to 'improve' on a CAT. Surgically cut it open, weld in a straight pipe, and install the CAT as you would normally. It'll 'look' like a CAT but it'll flow like a straight pipe.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Thanks for the help. His name isn't Bubba, but I really didn't think it sounded like a good Idea.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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replace the cat with a high flow monolithic cat will change the sound somewhat, and unless you own welding equipment, is cheaper than DB's suggestion. - and remains legal all at the same time.

Otherwise get a piece of straight pipe - rent an exhaust pipe expander from Kragen and make your own replacement pipe.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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many states only require functioning smog equipment on cars 20yrs old and newer.. and unless your in a state were they smog check I would remove it
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by l88rocket
many states only require functioning smog equipment on cars 20yrs old and newer.. and unless your in a state were they smog check I would remove it
There's a difference between a state's emissions check program and what is required. No state allows you to remove the cat on a car originally equipped with one. Many states only do an emissions check on cars 24 years old or newer, but in those states a visual check is still part of the safety inspection.

Anywhoo... Get a high-flow cat (~$100), and some loud mufflers and it will sound great. The cat mellows the sound and often sounds better than no cat at all.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Just pull the mufflers off and use the cat as the muffler.Rmmm Rmmmm
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Anywhoo... Get a high-flow cat (~$100), and some loud mufflers and it will sound great. The cat mellows the sound and often sounds better than no cat at all.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a good plan to me - where do you find a high-flow cat for $100?
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...99663&D=-99663

Looks like Dynomax universals start at $60.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRev
... A friend said I should just take a crowbar to the inside of the converter. Is this effective? Will it improve the exhaust sound?
Yes it's quite effective; also louder. After 20+ years, you may find cat's guts have already crumbled and been blown out. You should show your approx geographic location ... smog enforcement varies alot by location ... chances are someone here knows what's doable in your area.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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At 62 I finally was able to get my first Corvette after 46 years. I'm just having fun getting started. The car sat for almost 7 years --- not even started. All fluids have been drained and everything was in pretty good shape. My next questions will probably be about vacuum lines and some dash electrical glitches. Thanks for the help to get started on the sound.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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ebay has "test pipes"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CORVE...Q5fCarQ5fParts

this one is for 82-85, but you get the idea. Also check the crossfire forum, they have threads about "gutted cats"
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jackson
Yes it's quite effective; also louder. After 20+ years, you may find cat's guts have already crumbled and been blown out. You should show your approx geographic location ... smog enforcement varies alot by location ... chances are someone here knows what's doable in your area.
yes a crow bar works fine .when you are done you will have a test pipe that looks like a cat and will cost you nothing .
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Originally Posted by zwede
There's a difference between a state's emissions check program and what is required. No state allows you to remove the cat on a car originally equipped with one. Many states only do an emissions check on cars 24 years old or newer, but in those states a visual check is still part of the safety inspection.

Anywhoo... Get a high-flow cat (~$100), and some loud mufflers and it will sound great. The cat mellows the sound and often sounds better than no cat at all.
Most Northeast states do not require emissions testing for cars 25 years and older. You are correct that federal law (not state law) does not allow the removal of any emissions equipment on cars that originally came with said equipment at any age. However, in reality most states do not do a visual inspection for cars that are not being emissions tested in the northeast. Inspection involves safety only. For example, In Rhode Island, a car 25 years and older cannot fail inspection for emissions, only safety violations. In Massachussetts, cars 25 years and older also only undergo a safety inspection, no emissions testing or visual. States with Historic or Antique plate (25 years and older) options also require safety inspection only, no emissions or visual emissions inspection. Just an FYI.
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Not sure about the northeast, but here in Texas the safety inspection does include a visual inspection of the cat, thermostatic air cleaner, PCV and EGR. This visual inspection applies to all vehicles originally equipped with the parts, regardless of age.

I'm surprised the northeast states are more lenient than TX.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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I vaguely remember JC Whitney having "test pipes" that replaced cats . AmI dreaming or does anybody remember these ?
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Originally Posted by zwede
Not sure about the northeast, but here in Texas the safety inspection does include a visual inspection of the cat, thermostatic air cleaner, PCV and EGR. This visual inspection applies to all vehicles originally equipped with the parts, regardless of age.

I'm surprised the northeast states are more lenient than TX.
I am curious how Texas knows which cars had EGR valves, AIR pumps and hardware, as well as the type of air cleaner since these components are different for different makes and models? For example, a 78 L-48 does not have an AIR pump and hardward while the L-82 does. The only universal component is cars having a cat from 1975 on. How would the inspection station know?
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The emissions sticker specifies the items the car came with.

If the sticker is missing they go by books. But the books are known to have errors and list stuff the car didn't have so it's a good idea to take care of the sticker.
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Originally Posted by jb78L-82
Most Northeast states do not require emissions testing for cars 25 years and older. You are correct that federal law (not state law) does not allow the removal of any emissions equipment on cars that originally came with said equipment at any age. However, in reality most states do not do a visual inspection for cars that are not being emissions tested in the northeast. Inspection involves safety only. For example, In Rhode Island, a car 25 years and older cannot fail inspection for emissions, only safety violations. In Massachussetts, cars 25 years and older also only undergo a safety inspection, no emissions testing or visual. States with Historic or Antique plate (25 years and older) options also require safety inspection only, no emissions or visual emissions inspection. Just an FYI.
Here in NJ, if you have Historic tags (25 or older) there is no inspection at all.
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