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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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How does one determine what is acceptable disc rotor runout; how many thousandths is acceptable?
I purchased a dial runout gauge and would like to use it but don't know how much runout is OK and how much is bad?
Where does one find such specs?
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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I try to get .005 or less. I have all 4 of mine at or under .003. Anything over .010 I would not run and will probably pump air into the system.
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Gordonm,
Thank you.
Is this a standard rule of thumb or does it vary for vehicles?
Would this be the same tolerance for my minivan or my wife's Audi, in other words for all rotors for all cars or is there some place to find specific tolerances by vehicle manufacturer?
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This is for the Vettes. Due to the type of caliper used this is the tolerance. Other cars can go way more and not pump air into the system.
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According to the factory service manual total runout should not exceed .002" but that is with the wheel bearings snugged so there is no play. You wouldn't drive it with the bearings set like that but that is what the shop manual says for checking the runout. This measurement is for non-floating calipers. There is a bit more leeway for floating calipers.
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Keep the runout under 005 and you should be ok as long as the brg endplay is also in spec.
I set endplay for 0015 and the runout under 003", brakes stop on a dime.
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Would this be the same tolerance for my minivan or my wife's Audi, in other words for all rotors for all cars or is there some place to find specific tolerances by vehicle manufacturer?

No, rotor runout is not critical on cars with floating calipers.

If you can't feel vibration in the brake pedal or shaking in the steering wheel, don't worry about it.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ksbunting
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How does one determine what is acceptable disc rotor runout; how many thousandths is acceptable?
I purchased a dial runout gauge and would like to use it but don't know how much runout is OK and how much is bad?
Where does one find such specs?
Thank you,
Kurt
install oring seals and you can forget the air pumping
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At .015" runout I wasn't pumping air but I was getting an annoying squeak, squeak, squeak. I shimmed them to .002 and under and they quieted right down.
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Originally Posted by GTR1999
Keep the runout under 005 and you should be ok as long as the brg endplay is also in spec.
I set endplay for 0015 and the runout under 003", brakes stop on a dime.
Gary is totally correct, of course, FOR A FACTORY STOCK SYSTEM but if you redoing brakes and want to get to a good stable end result without any messing around, do it once and forgetaboutit....do this.....

Stainless calipers filled with O ring pistons stockish pads....
make sure the rear hubs are well within specs...very snug...
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For adjusting the run out on the rotors, what type of material is used, and where is it placed. Between the studs and rotor would be my guess.

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I used some shim stock and siccors and cut out some "washers" and sandwiched them between the rotor and hub. I also painted 1 of the studs and the corresponding hole in the rotor so I would know the orientation if I remove the rotor.
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Gary,
At the risk of sounding dumb, how do I measure/set the end play of the bearing?
I always just tightened them by hand until they were snug and the cotter pin hole lined up
Kurt
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Originally Posted by ksbunting
Gary,
At the risk of sounding dumb, how do I measure/set the end play of the bearing?
I always just tightened them by hand until they were snug and the cotter pin hole lined up
Kurt
Not a dumb question Kurt, look up my threads on the bearings. There are a lot of pictures. I don't post them here anymore because people complain and they're removed. Look on the other forums under my name and you'll find them or on Barry K's site.
The rear require rebuilding and machine work, the fronts may just need to dress the nut.
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