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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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I really am liking this setup, a set of Weber DCOE carbs, twin side draft configuration, set up to bolt right onto almost any 4 bbl manifold. I'm thinking chrome finish for the manifold adapter and the two carbs.

What kind of fuel pressure is required for these two carbs? Anyone know the CFM of the 40mm units combined?

I sent a note to the folks at Inglese but they have yet to respond and I thought I would check with you guys.

I have some cool filter ideas in my head for these as well. Just something I would like to do further down the road after the wedding this coming June.



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depends on the venturis.

40mm = 1.57" throttle bore
a 32 mm venturi has a diameter of 1.25 or so
a 31 mm venturi has a diameter of 1.22 or so

So your looking at around 600cfm(1.57" throttle bore, and 1.22" venturi in a holley)
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Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
depends on the venturis.

40mm = 1.57" throttle bore
a 32 mm venturi has a diameter of 1.25 or so
a 31 mm venturi has a diameter of 1.22 or so

So your looking at around 600cfm.

Okay so for a hot 405 I would need the 45mm carbs.
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Yeah 45mm carbs with 36mm venturis should do the trick.

I have the adapter and linkages if you want them. Hell if 600cfm turns out to be enough for you I have some dellorto carbs too.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Maybe better to consider the cross ram four DCOE manifold as it has much longer runners, more torque (closer to LSx/Super Ram runner length), though more money too?

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I really am liking this setup, a set of Weber DCOE carbs, twin side draft configuration, set up to bolt right onto almost any 4 bbl manifold. I'm thinking chrome finish for the manifold adapter and the two carbs.

What kind of fuel pressure is required for these two carbs? Anyone know the CFM of the 40mm units combined?

I sent a note to the folks at Inglese but they have yet to respond and I thought I would check with you guys.

I have some cool filter ideas in my head for these as well. Just something I would like to do further down the road after the wedding this coming June.

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Maybe better to consider the cross ram four DCOE manifold as it has much longer runners, more torque (closer to LSx/Super Ram runner length), though more money too?

Budget is certainly part of the puzzle, since the way I will probably go is buy my own Webber 152 carbs for under $200 each, and send them to Inglese. I think the $400 for the carbs will save me close to $600 from Inglese based on what I read another fellow did a year or so ago.

The other thing is that 4 of the carbs would be way too much for a 405. The two 45mm carbs should be perfect for me.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Durango, call 901 795-2400 and ask for Chuck Gleaves. He is the guy that builds all the Inglease systems. He is very knowledgable on the product and is a good friend of mine.
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hey DB, I'm actually thinking of doing the same thing to my 355 when I redo the top of the motor. Please let me know how it works out if you go this way.
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Originally Posted by Durango_Boy
Budget is certainly part of the puzzle, since the way I will probably go is buy my own Webber 152 carbs for under $200 each, and send them to Inglese. I think the $400 for the carbs will save me close to $600 from Inglese based on what I read another fellow did a year or so ago.

The other thing is that 4 of the carbs would be way too much for a 405. The two 45mm carbs should be perfect for me.
The rules for an individual runner system is ENTIRELY different than a shared plenum system.

For an individual runner system your going to want a 55mm carb.
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Originally Posted by c3corvette77
hey DB, I'm actually thinking of doing the same thing to my 355 when I redo the top of the motor. Please let me know how it works out if you go this way.

It'll be a while before I consider this enough to actually do it. Lots of deciding factors. I could buy and install a kick *** fuel injection system for the same money. I'm just doing research.
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You can run an ir system with quad 45's and 42 mm chokes on your engine with no problems .

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Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
The rules for an individual runner system is ENTIRELY different than a shared plenum system.

For an individual runner system your going to want a 55mm carb.

So what are you saying, the twins won't adequately feed my engine?
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Originally Posted by Durango_Boy
So what are you saying, the twins won't adequately feed my engine?
What you have there isnt an individual runner system...if you ran the 4 carbs with each throat serving one cylinder and one cylinder only you would have an individual runner system.
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Originally Posted by Durango_Boy
So what are you saying, the twins won't adequately feed my engine?
On a common plenum intake (normal dual or single plane) you will be fine with 45mm carbs.
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Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
On a common plenum intake (normal dual or single plane) you will be fine with 45mm carbs.

Yeah the plan is to bolt that setup in my first post onto my Air Gap manifold to take place of the normal carb.
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Its a lot taller than you think, but that will work fine.
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Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
Its a lot taller than you think, but that will work fine.

If I used the measurements from the site right it should fit under my L88 hood.
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Yeah...

I have a friend with the four carb cross ram on a 377ci (Grand Sport clone), and it's the proper setup with correctly sized and jetted carbs.

It's as close as you can get to FI with carbs.

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The rules for an individual runner system is ENTIRELY different than a shared plenum system.

For an individual runner system your going to want a 55mm carb.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Cool setup I've never run 'em on a V-8, but I built a couple of Spridget engines and a few 1.8 and 2.0L MGB engines (<-never again)

High cool factor, but I have to think they'd be a PITA for a daily driver.
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zI have a set of Mikuni side draft carbs that I had on a street rod. They sit on an aluminum riser and the runners etc look similar to your picture. They have some billet aluminum air cleaners from street and performance. I had them mounted on a 454 with a B&M street blower. If you are interested, let me know. They were a hot item in "the day". Many street rodders ran them. I don't have a picture but you probably know what they look like. Darrel
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