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They have been offering pro 55 for awhile.
When you asked me about my early 80s crane cam I believe my exact
wording to you was THERE ARE MORE MODERN CAM"S out there.
One reason I would not run the cam anymore besides there are better power makers. they have the PRO 55 treatment on cams there is just no reason not to have one, flat tappit cams are not that expensive.
When you asked the price I did not give you an answer
the cam has been in the bottom of a closet since the 80's thats most likely its final resting place if I don't feel comfortable using it why should I dump it off on someone else fore a few small bucks.
There are better grades of steel in wire but there not $52.00.
They have been offering pro 55 for awhile.
When you asked me about my early 80s crane cam I believe my exact
wording to you was THERE ARE MORE MODERN CAM"S out there.
One reason I would not run the cam anymore besides there are better power makers. they have the PRO 55 treatment on cams there is just no reason not to have one, flat tappit cams are not that expensive.
When you asked the price I did not give you an answer
the cam has been in the bottom of a closet since the 80's thats most likely its final resting place if I don't feel comfortable using it why should I dump it off on someone else fore a few small bucks.
There are better grades of steel in wire but there not $52.00.
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I agree.
You know, when you look at my cam, its got ALOT of intake lift for a solid cam. Even before you added the 1.6 ratio rockers. Not too many cams with 248 duration have .35 of lobe lift.
You know, when you look at my cam, its got ALOT of intake lift for a solid cam. Even before you added the 1.6 ratio rockers. Not too many cams with 248 duration have .35 of lobe lift.
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I don't know what your up to on E-bay but if you want some
long term durabilty in your springs consider the tool steel wire
springs.
Or what is the deal on the springs cam motion recomended
Valve springs are the last place to take any risk with.
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The compcams ( 
) beehive springs have been very well recieved and reviewed.
Failing that I will probably spring for the Kmotion springs.
) beehive springs have been very well recieved and reviewed.Failing that I will probably spring for the Kmotion springs.
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I think pacaloy is supposed to be a high endurance deal, I did not look at the price of the lunati behive pacaloy.
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Took a look at the pacoloy behive lunati they are Ovate ( oval shape wire ). looks like for $159.00 there was a spring you could use. I did not look very hard will let you look.
using the behive would remove a good amount of gram weight from the retainer.
using the behive would remove a good amount of gram weight from the retainer.
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looked a little harder at the lunati pacaloy behive
I see a couple you could use
you should be able to get the 200 head with
both 1.250 pocket or 1.55 pocket
they have a 1.210, 1.145 base size pacaloy behive.
I kind of like having the bigger spring pocket.
I see a couple you could use
you should be able to get the 200 head with
both 1.250 pocket or 1.55 pocket
they have a 1.210, 1.145 base size pacaloy behive.
I kind of like having the bigger spring pocket.
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Now I bought something.
I am now the proud owner of some 26120 valve springs. They have the right 1.9" installed height, the seat pressure is a little high at 148lbs.
I am now the proud owner of some 26120 valve springs. They have the right 1.9" installed height, the seat pressure is a little high at 148lbs.
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how did you go from looking at 1.7,1.75 height springs for standard stem length valves to 1.9 height. what length valves do you have.
148 at 1.9 height.
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I may have made a teenie mistake.
My valves are the +.05/.1 or 5.010 in length.
F6103/F6104
Actually looking at the dart specs I may be alright. We shall see.
They are using a 1.8" installed height with 4.89" valves.
So I got .12 in additional valve length and .1 in installed height.
My valves are the +.05/.1 or 5.010 in length.
F6103/F6104
Actually looking at the dart specs I may be alright. We shall see.
They are using a 1.8" installed height with 4.89" valves.
So I got .12 in additional valve length and .1 in installed height.
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I may have made a teenie mistake.
My valves are the +.05/.1 or 5.010 in length.
F6103/F6104
Actually looking at the dart specs I may be alright. We shall see.
They are using a 1.8" installed height with 4.89" valves.
So I got .12 in additional valve length and .1 in installed height.
My valves are the +.05/.1 or 5.010 in length.
F6103/F6104
Actually looking at the dart specs I may be alright. We shall see.
They are using a 1.8" installed height with 4.89" valves.
So I got .12 in additional valve length and .1 in installed height.
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I build my own motors but I always let my buddy set up my heads with regards to the springs. I even pick the valves and springs but I let him set them up, he has the proper mics and tools and shim etc. and knows what he is doing.
It is critical to have the proper valve springs and setup correctly for the cam being run in a HP motor
It is critical to have the proper valve springs and setup correctly for the cam being run in a HP motor
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You have a mike, shims, feeler gauges. have you done this before ?
theres a lot of stuff to check, most likely with 1.9 height and only
.560 lift your not going to run into problems but only fools just throw it all together. do every one don't get lazy assume what works on one is good for the others.
You have a mike, shims, feeler gauges. have you done this before ?
theres a lot of stuff to check, most likely with 1.9 height and only
.560 lift your not going to run into problems but only fools just throw it all together. do every one don't get lazy assume what works on one is good for the others.
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