C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Wiped Cam?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:46 AM
  #1  
sam79's Avatar
sam79
Thread Starter
Advanced
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: Russellville AR
Default Wiped Cam?

How do you know that you have wiped a lobe on your cam? Lots of threads about the types of oil and additives to prevent this but no explaination of the symptom of the wipe cam.

Thanks
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:58 AM
  #2  
Budman68's Avatar
Budman68
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 9,078
Likes: 7
From: DFW TX
Cruise-In VII Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07
Default

A miss that want go away, knocking from the valvetrain as it get worse, and I'm sure a few more. My cam went sound this summer and everything I did to try and save it made it worse. Mine even broke two lifters.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:35 PM
  #3  
HamadUP's Avatar
HamadUP
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,877
Likes: 13
From: Doha
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

You have to measure the cam lift with a dial caliper, its the only way I know to be certain about it.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:03 PM
  #4  
NeverFinished's Avatar
NeverFinished
Advanced
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: Austin TX
Default

When I lost the first cam, I had metal shavings in the oil. Also had a miss that would not go away especially at high rpms. In addition I could see the difference in lift with the intake manifold removed by looking at the top of the lifters.

I knew better, but made the mistake of trying to replace the cam without removing the engine and cleaning the shavings out properly. The cam bearings looked OK. So I tried to wash the metal out of the block with spray solvents from underneath with the pan removed. Apparently it was a futile attempt because the next cam failed soon after and you should have seen the cam bearings after that. They looked like someone beat them with a hammer.

During the following proper rebuild I went to a hydraulic roller cam to eliminate the failed cam issues.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:23 AM
  #5  
73, Dark Blue 454's Avatar
73, Dark Blue 454
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,838
Likes: 10
From: Austin TX
Default

Are you running Comp's XE hydraulic? They have a high failure rate. Do a search on this site and others, "wiped XE cam lobe". You'll be reading for days.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:47 AM
  #6  
vettesbydesign's Avatar
vettesbydesign
Safety Car
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,102
Likes: 1
From: Forsyth Illinois
Default

I read something interesting the other day over in C1/C2 section about wiped cam lobes.If the pushrod rotates...no matter how fast,or slow,then the lobe isn't wiped.
I don't know how true,or accurate it is,but that's what a guy said.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:35 PM
  #7  
stingr69's Avatar
stingr69
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,499
Likes: 1,508
From: Little Rock AR
Default

Symptoms include repetitive backfiring into the intake manifold under load without much issue during cruise. Not to be confused with a lean backfire. You can cruise fine but when you lightly accelerate, it will start popping and continue until you let off on the gas. This will frequently get worse in just a few miles as they usualy do not last long when you begin the rapid wear process.

-Mark.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:54 PM
  #8  
FB007's Avatar
FB007
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 952
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by vettesbydesign
I read something interesting the other day over in C1/C2 section about wiped cam lobes.If the pushrod rotates...no matter how fast,or slow,then the lobe isn't wiped.
I don't know how true,or accurate it is,but that's what a guy said.
BECAUSE the lobes are ground with a .001-.002" taper to rotate the lifter. If the taper is still there, the lifters will rotate, ergo, it's fine.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 08:07 PM
  #9  
headache57's Avatar
headache57
Instructor
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 159
Likes: 5
From: New jersey
Default

i had to replace the cam at 64k, like "neverfinished" i also replaced it while the motor stayed in the car. took me five nites afther work, I replace everything that i took out with new parts, water pump, oil pump, everything. i never found any metal shavings in the oil. now "neverfinished" has me worryed...........how long did your car run, mile wise, befor the cam wiped out agian?
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:43 PM
  #10  
sam79's Avatar
sam79
Thread Starter
Advanced
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: Russellville AR
Default

Thanks Vetter's for all the responses
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 10:57 PM
  #11  
Brooklinite's Avatar
Brooklinite
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 23
From: Kawartha Lakes and PEC, Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by stingr69
Symptoms include repetitive backfiring into the intake manifold under load without much issue during cruise. Not to be confused with a lean backfire. You can cruise fine but when you lightly accelerate, it will start popping and continue until you let off on the gas. This will frequently get worse in just a few miles as they usualy do not last long when you begin the rapid wear process.

-Mark.
It's funny, my '72 was behaving exactly like your description. I called a friend who has forgotten more about SBC's than I will ever know to go for a ride to get his opinion. Of course, with him in it that car ran like a champ, no issues whatsoever. Took it out the next day and after about 5 miles i noticed a valvetrain tick. Within minutes that tick became a clack as the lobe and the lifter wore away and that was the end of my cam.

We tore it down last summer and put a roller in it.

Reply
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 10:43 AM
  #12  
stingr69's Avatar
stingr69
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,499
Likes: 1,508
From: Little Rock AR
Default

Originally Posted by sam79
Thanks Vetter's for all the responses
Or just drive it over here and let me listen to it while you cry.

You are pretty close to me.

-Mark.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Wiped Cam?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:18 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE