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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Have a 69 with aftermarket intake, cam and 750 Holly. Anyone know how much vacuum I should be pulling on the line that goes to the power brake booster. Having to push pedal to far down. Breaking is weak.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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I think you want at least 10 in. vacuum of course the more you have the easier the pedal pressure. If its too low you could switch too a hydro boost brake system.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Full manifold vacuum should be present... Any Mods to eng???,New problem???

From the Booster back, the line should be the same size as the fitting there, no smaller and usually is fit to the base of the carb...

(black hose to metal pipe to carb)
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony24
Have a 69 with aftermarket intake, cam and 750 Holly. Anyone know how much vacuum I should be pulling on the line that goes to the power brake booster. Having to push pedal to far down. Breaking is weak.

oem spec call out for 16 but I had mine working fine at 13, but recent new engine producing 8.5 at iddle and they have suffered....installing hydroboost to fix the issue.

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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony24
Have a 69 with aftermarket intake, cam and 750 Holly. Anyone know how much vacuum I should be pulling on the line that goes to the power brake booster. Having to push pedal to far down. Breaking is weak.

If your pedal is going too far down and the braking is weak, then the booster is probably not the problem. (posibly air in the system) If you need to push harder on the pedal to get good stopping power and the pedal is high, then I would suspect the booster. You can check it by pushing on the brake with the engine off and hold it down while you start it. If the pedal drops slightly after the engine starts, then the booster is working.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Weak breaks is a regular topic on the forum. Do a search and you will find a lot of information that will help.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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All good points...
Do the brakes work fine all but at idle?
A vacuum booster is a storage device for the brakes and usually will, if not leaking, work fine. In the booster is a check valve that makes this happen.
Most often, modified engines have lower vacuum at idle, and together with a weak booster, will have issues.
Best to make sure as pointed out earlier, that base brake problems are not an issue including rotor run-out, air in hydraulic system, leaking booster.. and check valve.
To test, after running the car, shut it off and press the pedal up to 5 times or untill the pedal feels firm and hard to push.
If no difference, possible booster or air in hydralic system.
Pedal travel should not be excessive.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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I had a friend who just added a vacuum canister to correct margional vacuum problem.
Depending on your driving habbits you might want a pump.
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12 in minimum, or get a vacuum pump/hydraboost.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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Its been my experiance that your pedal will get rock hard and not stop well when there is a vacuum problem. For a low mushy pedal I would bleed the brakes good before I replaced the master cylinder.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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I don't know what you've done so far, but........

I replaced all the vacuum lines for the brakes, headlights, and wiper system. Still had low vacuum, and mushy brakes. Replace the master cylinder and the brake booster. Alot better, the booster was leaking internal. I am in the middle of a heater core & A/C evaperator core fix, and have replaced all the vacuum lines for that as well. As soon as I'm done with that, I'm going to rebuild all the calipers. I'll have a good clean brake system when I'm done, and it will be even better than it was the last time I drove it, which was pretty good, by the way.

Good luck, let us know,
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Originally Posted by Tony24
Have a 69 with aftermarket intake, cam and 750 Holly. Anyone know how much vacuum I should be pulling on the line that goes to the power brake booster. Having to push pedal to far down. Breaking is weak.
Just got done fighting that same problem. After replacing the old rubber hoses and 4 rebuilt calipers, the master cylinder turned out to be bad. The seals in it were weak/bad and it couldn't build pressure etc.

The master cylinder is easy to replace the brake booster is VERY hard. Had to have help from two friends to do that.
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