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I am rebuilding my control arms. I took the passenger side lower arm apart the bushings are out both sleeves are out but i do not under stand why i can not get the shaft to come out it will not slide far enought into the bushing hole for the shaft to clear the other end. Has any body run into this problem before ?
It sounds like the bushing shells are still in the A-arm itself. The bushing shell will have a lip on one side, then the rubber bushing is inside that shell, and the sleeve is inside the rubber bushing which is what actually slides onto the shaft.
Make sure you have the shells out. Sometimes they need to be cut with a chisel and removed because pressing them leaves you with a bent A-arm.
I dont understand what you mean by shells the upper control arm came apart fine the rubber bushings and the sleeves then the shaft slide right out.
but on the lower the rubber bushings are out and allso the sleeves but the shft wont come out
I dont understand what you mean by shells the upper control arm came apart fine the rubber bushings and the sleeves then the shaft slide right out.
but on the lower the rubber bushings are out and allso the sleeves but the shft wont come out
Here is a picture of a new bushing. The large part with the lip is the shell. The rubber bushing is inside it, then the sleeve inside that.
These press in from the outside so that lip is on the outer edge of the A-arm. Sometimes when the bushings are removed the shell is left in, when someone thinks it's actually part of the A-arm. They are pressed in and very hard to get out. If they are still in the A-arms then the shaft cannon slide in one way far enough for the other side to come out.
I was just making sure your bushings came out completely and that the shell wasn't still in place.
Can you post a pic of the A-arm where the bushings came out and the shaft ends please?
The outer sleeve, part that is pressed into the A-Frame, must be out to remove the control arm. Are you saying that you have both the bushings removed and the control arm still will not come out ?
Yes i have both rubber bushings removed and also the sleeves that go on the ends of the shaft and still i can not slide the shaft out of the control arm
If that is the case, it sounds like your control arm has been bent. Can you measure the opening in the drivers side A-Arm and compare it to the Pass side ?
Thanks for the info durango_boy ill take another look at the bushing holes for the liner when i get home tonight but when i took the uppers apart all i had was the rubber bushing and the sleeves and the shaft came out
Yes i have both rubber bushings removed and also the sleeves that go on the ends of the shaft and still i can not slide the shaft out of the control arm
The upper arms come apart differently than the lower arms. You can get the shaft out of the upper arm with the shells in place. The lower arms have to have the shells removed in order to remove the shaft.
This is a pic of an upper control arm but your lower arm needs to look like it in order to get the shaft out. The shells have been removed from the control arm in the pic.
Thanks 72 vette then i still have the shells in from the pic you posted how do i remove the shells
Some people drive them out with an air chisel but I didn't have much success with that. I was banging into the arm too much for comfort. I used a hacksaw blade and carefully sawed through the shell and then used a hammer and chisel to collapse the shell and get it out. I had a shop press the new bushings/shells in. You just have to make sure the shafts are inserted into the arms the right way when you give the arms to the shop.
If you are using poly bushings and the shells are in good shape you can just clean them up and re-use them without going through the effort to remove them. If you are using rubber bushings the shells have to come out.
Rick B.
Last edited by 72LS1Vette; Jan 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM.
Thanks for the info im going to use poly bushings do the poly come with new shells
With the poly bushings, make sure you grease, re-grease, and grease some more. They will squeak horribly if you don't and then you'll have to either live with the squeaking or do it all over again.