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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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Went by the engine shop today and took a few pics of my motor coming together.

I decided to just build the existing NOM L-65 that came with my "69 model.








So far we have:

1973 2 bolt main block w/ ARP bolts
.060 over flat tops
Eagle I beam rods
Polished and balanced crank
Edelbrock alum heads
Edelbrock RPM air gap intake
Holley 750 DP
Comp hyd roller cam -- app .510 @ 224 (.050)
Comp magnum 1.52 roller tip rockers
MSD billet dist w/6AL box

Pistons are .005 below 0 deck and using FelPro 1003 .041 gaskets for a CR of around 10-1 (final numbers to come)

Will also run an L-88 15lb flywheel, L-88 hood and Dewitt alum radiator/elec fan.


It will be run in on the dyno - I have been told it should be in the 400hp/400tq range.

Here is some eye candy - this monster was sitting in the corner

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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Looks good. Nothing like a fresh, clean engine.

Does the RPM air gap fit under your hood?
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Looks good. Nothing like a fresh, clean engine.

Does the RPM air gap fit under your hood?


it won't fit under the stock sb hood but.........

my car needs paint anyway so she's gonna get an L-88 hood
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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Hi E69,
I enjoyed seeing your 'work in progess'. Sure is pretty all cleaned up and machined. Good Luck!
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Hi E69,
I enjoyed seeing your 'work in progess'. Sure is pretty all cleaned up and machined. Good Luck!
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Thanks Alan,

I sure appreciate your kind words

Regards, Ed
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That's purty.... Very nice job!
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[QUOTE=ED69ray;1568976436]Went by the engine shop today and took a few pics of my motor coming together.

I decided to just build the existing NOM L-65 that came with my "69 model.





If your going to be using the 1003 gasket you may want to pull the heads of and drill the required holes in the decks as required by Felpro in there instructions when using their performance gaskets.

Many of the older blocks do not have these holes and need to be drilled.

Here is a pic to go by
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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That's purty.... Very nice job!


Thanks..........but all I did was write the check
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Originally Posted by BLOCKMAN

Many of the older blocks do not have these holes and need to be drilled.

Why would you need to drill 1/2 in holes in the deck surface?


Thats exactly the reason why I am paying a pro to do the work
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Originally Posted by ED69ray
Why would you need to drill 1/2 in holes in the deck surface?


Thats exactly the reason why I am paying a pro to do the work
Read the instructions that come with the gasket or just lay a stock head gasket like a 7733 PT-2 over the 1003 and you can see the changes between the 2

They restrict the water between cylinders 1 and 3 and 5 and 7 and the same on the other side of the block and the gasket is designed to push more water in the center of the head as the center part of the head is the hottest part as the two exhaust valves being together.

All I can say is the pro engine builder your using must know more then the engineers at Felpro, I have seen guys try this before and end up with bent valves.

Thats why all the newer blocks made today come with the extra water hole in the deck.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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All I can say is the pro engine builder your using must know more then the engineers at Felpro, I have seen guys try this before and end up with bent valves.

Thats why all the newer blocks made today come with the extra water hole in the deck.



Just got off the phone with Chris at FelPro's tech line and his exact words were "absolutely no modifications are required for the early small block 350 to use the 1003 gasket". He stated that the 1003 gasket is a direct replacement for the stock GM 350 head gasket.



He did say that extra cooling holes must be drilled for the 454ci engine (different gasket)

Talked with my builder - Kim Barr in Dallas - and he also said its not required on small block 350's. He has an excellent reputation and has been building perf engines since the mid 70's so I think we have all the bases covered.

Dyno breakin should be in the next two weeks.

Thanks, Ed
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Originally Posted by ED69ray
Just got off the phone with Chris at FelPro's tech line and his exact words were "absolutely no modifications are required for the early small block 350 to use the 1003 gasket". He stated that the 1003 gasket is a direct replacement for the stock GM 350 head gasket.



He did say that extra cooling holes must be drilled for the 454ci engine (different gasket)

Talked with my builder - Kim Barr in Dallas - and he also said its not required on small block 350's. He has an excellent reputation and has been building perf engines since the mid 70's so I think we have all the bases covered.

Dyno breakin should be in the next two weeks.

Thanks, Ed
If the holes were not needed why would they print it??????

Call and ask for Harvey and he will tell you to read the instructions that came with the gaskets and all the correct steps must be taken for the best results.

The gasket is a replacement gasket for 350 but certain blocks may require certain machining done. As the 1003 is designed for restricting the water in certain areas and cooling the center of the head where it the hottest part of the cylinder head.

The number is 254-354-7700 ask for Harvey as I think you was misinformed and you didn't read the instructions.

I guess we pay closer attetion to detail at out shop

Good luck with your build

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Nice shots of the build, I can tell your are excited about getting that back in your 69. I am tossing aroung re-building my stock 71 350 to bring it to around 400HP, or buying a trun-key crate motor and skipping all the pain and suffereing. What's that build costing you?

Best of luck with the new motor,
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Originally Posted by kellyr073
Nice shots of the build, I can tell your are excited about getting that back in your 69. I am tossing aroung re-building my stock 71 350 to bring it to around 400HP, or buying a trun-key crate motor and skipping all the pain and suffereing. What's that build costing you?

Best of luck with the new motor,
Bob

I shopped around for crate motors as well but in the end I decided to just build what I already had.

It should come in around 5K - and I bought all new stuff

My big ticket items are:

$1000 machine work / roller cam conversion
$1000 alum heads
$1000 crank work/bearings, balance, I beam rods and 10-1 pistons

I also liked the idea of starting from scratch and having it built by someone you are paying directly Also figured I'd get a higher quality build with respect to machine work (hone, deck, file fit, balance) and assembly.

I am waiting on my carb to be built - should be done by fri and dyno/breakin soon thereafter.

thanks, Ed
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