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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Anyone ever use or have an option on Blueprint Crate Engines.
I see them in Summit Racing and Jegs catalog.
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I'm following this thread, as I've been looking at these motors too.
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Isn't blueprint the one that MS Vetteman had a problem with a couple of years ago? If so, he went through some hassle as I recall, but in the end Blueprint did the right thing and proved to be a stand up company.
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I looked at their engines in Jegs also....seems the prices have gone up recently.... The 385hp 355 is now $3500 and the 405hp 383 is $3700 I believe..... Where as the 400hp Year One 350 is still $2999.....and from the internet searching I have done on it, it seems most of them dyno in the 420-430hp range....or at least thats the sheets the new owners are getting.

Its a toss up I guess....but I'm leaning towards the Year One motor..
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Who builds the motors for Year One?
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Originally Posted by C3 4ME
Isn't blueprint the one that MS Vetteman had a problem with a couple of years ago? If so, he went through some hassle as I recall, but in the end Blueprint did the right thing and proved to be a stand up company.
That was a classic. Wonder what happened to him? I think it reached the 1,000 post limit. Might be interesting reading for you Sweet.
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Hit the search link at the top of the page, type in Blueprint engines. Go to the last post. Lots of info both ways on these. Whatever you get check the parts list carefully. Noname parts in a lot of these crate engines. Powdermetal rods, KB hyper pistons. A warrantee helps but removing the original, swapping parts over, installing, having an issue, removing the engine, swapping parts over, recrating and shipping it back, picking it up, swapping parts over reinstalling it for free sucks.
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just my 2 cents.....i would want a brand new block in any crate engine i purchased....none of this "seasoned" stuff........
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Who builds the motors for Year One?
I've heard there's a couple of engine builders for Year One. One is located in Utah and the other is Derebery Performance out of Texas. I purchased their 383 for $4k. It dynoed 455. Very powerful engine. I'm very pleased with it.
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Originally Posted by midyearvette
just my 2 cents.....i would want a brand new block in any crate engine i purchased....none of this "seasoned" stuff........
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see Blueprint claim to use seasoned blocks.

For you engine guru's, which I am not, What about the parts list and specs on this engine? http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint+Engines/761056/10002/-1

That is what I am leaning toward.....Thanks
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Originally Posted by O.J.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see Blueprint claim to use seasoned blocks.

For you engine guru's, which I am not, What about the parts list and specs on this engine? http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint+Engines/761056/10002/-1

That is what I am leaning toward.....Thanks
$180 Cast crank (Check with Blockman on these, Many failures) Stock rods, KB hyper pistons, (Search is your friend here) No name timing set, Externally balanced. High volume oil pump is not needed on a good rebuild. Knock off intake. High lift hydraulic flat tappet no name cam and valvetrain parts. In my opinion these are the type of crate motors to look out for. (See my post above) Built with the absolute cheapest parts they can find. Would bet it is a used block (seasoned). At least it has decent bearings. Blueprint would not advertise that they use used blocks, on the other hand they won't tell you they do unless you ask. I think for $3000 or a little more you could buy a new GM 383 short block, a decent set of heads and a factory style roller cam.
http://www.customrodder.com/tech/0411sc_gmpp/

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Originally Posted by O.J.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see Blueprint claim to use seasoned blocks.

For you engine guru's, which I am not, What about the parts list and specs on this engine? http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint+Engines/761056/10002/-1

That is what I am leaning toward.....Thanks
"seasoned" is a term some builders use for a used block or from a bone yard, i would only consider the builders that use new blocks.........
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Originally Posted by midyearvette
"seasoned" is a term some builders use for a used block or from a bone yard, i would only consider the builders that use new blocks.........
Why?
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Originally Posted by DRIVESHAFT
Why?
unless you know the history of the block you are taking a big chance that it may have wiped a camshaft before due to lifter bore runout. although some builders claim they have a way to hone or re do the lifters, this is a very expensive and time consuming job for most machinists. if a roller is installed then so be it but a flat tappet relies on the "spin" of the lifters among other things for camshaft life. back in the day we had to rely on used blocks but all that has changed for the better with after market equipment and even crate mills from gm. unless you know the block's history or it is your original i would just not take a chance of building a mill with a lot of expensive parts and chance the whole project on a bad block that you thought was good or even a used one with a guarantee because of the labor involved to rectify the situation. a little more spent up front is good insurance.......jmho
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thanks for all the help guys!!
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I think the GMPP crate engines are a good value, have a warantee and everyone knows the company. I've heard the GMPP engines are built in Mexico but who really cares as long as GM stands behind it.
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