decision time..... diff ratio
a switch to 4.11s, with nothing-else done, resulted in 14-Teens at the same MPH.
The closer to the optimal 1/4-gearing you begin with, the less drastic performance gains you'll see with a gear-swap
(i.e. - a switch from 3.73 to 4.56 may provide little, or NO, reduction in E.T., depending upon the combination)
I knew a young fellow who had dropped a stout Olds 455 into an '83 Cutlass Brougham, originally equipped with a diesel and geared with 2.41 or 2.56 ring-pinion, running low 15s, and reported that a swap to 3.73s put him into the high-13s, over a full-second of E.T. reduction.
I believe that BKbroiler gained so-much simply because his 3.08s were so-far from optimal (similar to the Cutlass mentioned above), and he and I have discussed that 4.11s might be too-much gear for his current application, as he is presently trapping @ his maximum RPM with the .73s.
Still not absolutely sure which way to go.... but leaning towards sticking with what I've got.
I gather a 3.7 diff would liven the performance as long as I can maintain traction..... I guess I could always learn to use throttle control
Or get bigger boots for the rearBy the way, 1st gear is 2.87 ratio, and with 3.36 gets me out to 45~50mph.
I figure the 3.7 would still get me to about 40 mph, which isn't too short.
I have a slight annoying "driveability" issue at present, which I am assuming is due to the cam specs... 242*/240* @ 0.050 on a LSA of 112* (won't buy into argument about LSA's at present
)Currently with the 3.36, I need to drive around in 3rd gear around town (speeds 30~35mph) as motor doesn't like maintaining constant speed below 1500 rpm. It's OK if under load, and will pull without complaint in 3rd gear from 900 rpm..... it just doesn't like constant rpm below 1500 though. It jerks and shudders and just doesn't like it.
It's especially bad prior to motor reaching operating temp..
It's very good above 1500 rpm though. No issues at all.
I figure a change to 3.7s would bump up rpm and allow motor to run better around town.... should be OK in 4th at 30~35mph.
63Mako asked about timing....
currently it has 12* initial, 34* mechanical advance all in by 2500 rpm
I think vac adv adds about 10* whilst cruising.
Could my timing curve be causing my shuddering below 1500rpm at no/little load? There's about 9~10" vacuum at idle. Carb is a Holley 4150 HP Street.... and dizzy is HEI style with inbuilt coil and mechanical tach drive.
If I can eliminate the low speed shuddering through tuning, I'll more than likely keep the 3.36, as it does suit my driving style.
What ARE the symptoms of too little or too much ignition advance at lower rpm?






Edit: vacuum leaks are real common on our cars. I agree with 7T1 vette. Rule that out first.
Last edited by 63mako; Mar 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM.
There's no leak at manifold. 9~10" is all the vacuum there is at idle.
Cam has around 80* overlap.
I will try advancing timing at idle.... If it picks up some torque down the bottom, it may feel better. In gear from rolling start, there's no real "kick" in the back till about 2000..... It absolutely "zings" when it hits 3000 and holds strong to 6000.
Here's an example .... half way through this clip I do a stationary takeoff from the lights.....

3.7's or 3.36's
There are times I think maybe I should have opted for the slightly lower 460hp option. It had a 230/230 @ 0.050 cam spec, with the Etec-170 heads
Hard to make educated decisions when dyno reports don't show details below 3000 rpm.





There's no leak at manifold. 9~10" is all the vacuum there is at idle.
Cam has around 80* overlap.
I will try advancing timing at idle.... If it picks up some torque down the bottom, it may feel better. In gear from rolling start, there's no real "kick" in the back till about 2000..... It absolutely "zings" when it hits 3000 and holds strong to 6000.
Here's an example .... half way through this clip I do a stationary takeoff from the lights.....

3.7's or 3.36's
There are times I think maybe I should have opted for the slightly lower 460hp option. It had a 230/230 @ 0.050 cam spec, with the Etec-170 heads
Hard to make educated decisions when dyno reports don't show details below 3000 rpm. 
Last edited by 63mako; Mar 18, 2009 at 08:54 PM.










