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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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some days my 81 runs great and then other days it wont idle. i have messed with it so much i am about to give up. seems like when i un hook most the vacuum lines and plug them at the carb it idles the best. my question is which lines are not necessary for this computer driven carb to work??????? the smog pump has been removed. and buy the way, who is Lars??????? thanks namvet
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I would venture to say you have a vacuum leak, or the EGR valve is not seating because of carbon.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Lars Grimsrud is probably the foremost expert on Quadrajets in the world.
He used to be a member here on the forum, but got tired of arguing with people who did not know what they were talking about yet insisted they knew better than him. He is a great guy that is still available to help anyone who needs his help. I've never met anyone quite like him, he genuinely just seems to like to help people out with their cars with no ulterior motive. He does not, however, deal with E4MEs specifically, like our '81s, so you are stuck with us wannabes!

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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thanks for the info. just had a new egr valve installed. did seem to help. this usually happens after you kick the secondaries in and then come to an idle. it will idle real rough and then sometimes it will idle perfect. one time i was setting the idle up so it would idle even though it was idling rough. all of a sudden it just smoothed out and then it was idling too fast so i had to set the idle back down. might run perfect for a time and then it happens again. could the computer be acting up??????? thanks again namvet
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That sounds like a hardware problem (carb, not computer). I have to go right now, but I will get back with you on some possible causes of your problem.

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Here are some things that could be causing your problems:

Damaged/Leaking Needle/Seat: These are easily damaged and should be replaced any time carb has flooding or fuel control problems.

Fuel-Logged Float: Old floats will absorb fuel and start sinking. Replace it with a new nitrophyl float..

Jammed M/C solenoid: Check by inserting a long thin allen wrench down a “D” vent in the choke tower and be sure the solenoid moves down and springs back up freely.

Emulsion tubes fallen out of air horn and laying in float bowl

Loose throttle plate

Clogged air bleeds

Leaking well plugs or porous casting: This is not likely in an E4ME

Warped air horn or secondary throttles not closing: I doubt this is it unless someone incompetent has worked your carb, or it has suffered severe trauma.


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Originally Posted by a1sensei

Leaking well plugs or porous casting: This is not likely in an E4ME

Warped air horn or secondary throttles not closing: I doubt this is it unless someone incompetent has worked your carb, or it has suffered severe trauma.


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The E4ME has the same problems here as the earlier units. They are virtually identical.
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thanks for the advice a1sensei. just had the carb rebuilt by a dealer that had an older guy that used to work on these in the old days. new float, new choke pull-off and new egr valve. started it this evening and it ran and idled good. who knows when it will happen again. am running the timing between 12 and 14 btdc. now my next project is the left power window regulator. have it out and the gear is stripped. any body got a schematic how this all goes back together. my shop manual doesnt go into much detail. thanks namvet
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The E4ME has the same problems here as the earlier units. They are virtually identical.
I have to respectfully disagree. Older castings had "thimble cup" well plugs that were notorious for leaking. Like everything else on the Quadrajet, time and service showed GM how to improve the design. These problems were virtually eliminated by the time of E4ME.

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glad you got your carb fixed. i have an 81 too and unless you deal with them all the time like sensei and lars etc etc i wouldnt mess with them. i was going to mention the bump up solenoid for aircon may be bad as well...but doesnt matter now, hopefully it keeps running well for some time.

for your stripped teeth i would certainly recommend this repair kit over totally replacing the tooth gear. its relatively quick once you have the window actuator out of the door and works perfect. mine has been in for 2 years and no problems. there is a post in here with alot of help when i bought mine about tricks when re-installing. such as using bolts/nuts instead of rivets when you put it all back in. if you cant find it let me know and ill give you a link.

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thanks gingerbreadman. i was thinking about what you have suggested. the gear on the motor looks pretty good. i do need some other rollers and stuff. do they make a kit for this??? i would like to read the link that you are talking about for i have parts laying everywhere. on the carb fix, i wouldnt say it is fixed. havent driven it enough to really find out. been raining almost every other day. thanks again, namvet
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