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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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I just finished a project of replacing the motor mounts, trans mount and replacing the oil pan gasket. That's it. I had to unbolt my headers to move them out of the way to get to the mounts. I finished everything last week and bolted the headers on and filled the engine with oil yesterday. Today I attached the exhaust to the headers which was the last step before starting the car. I started the car and hear this horrible metal on metal rattling sound. I turned the car off real quick after I realized the sound. I checked all around the engine accessories and the fan to see if anything was interfering. I double checked all the header bolts to make sure they were tight thinking it might just be a bad exhaust leak. Then I double checked that I had put the plug wires back on correct. I tried to start it one more time and the same horrible sound was there. I pulled the dipstick to make sure that the oil pan was full and it was.

The only thing that stands out as a little off is that when I pulled the headers, I placed all the bolts in my little magnetic tray. When I went to put the headers back on, I was one bolt short. I just assumed that I had dropped it and it had been cleaned up with the rest of the tools and misc. bits from working under the car. Now I fear the small possibility that I may have dropped a bolt into an exhaust port.

What and were should I start checking to find my problem?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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You said you checked the fan and that's OK, could it be the clutch inspection cover? PG.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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That's a great thought. When I dropped the oil pan I had to create a thread on how to get it out. Turns out there was a little tab from the inspection cover that was under the oil pan lip. I pushed it back with a screw driver. I will check that tomorrow to see if I pushed it too far back.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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A friend at work suggested that if a bolt had fallen into the header while unattached, it would make the same kind of racket I'm describing. Has that ever happened to anyone?
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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When changed my headers last month, the a/c compressor belt was situated at the outside of the metal shield at the lower compressor bracket. Check this if you got A/C.
Terrible sound..
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I had the same noise. Turned out to be the flexplate/converter cover rubbing the flexplate.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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i think you answered your own question...that bolt is either in the bottom of your header, or somewhere you really don't want it to be.
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