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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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I snapped some wheel studs on my rear wheel. So, now I'm looking on summit to replace them with ARP studs. Only thing is, I did a search, and can not for the life of me find the size I need for my car. I need them to be slightly longer than the stock ones, which is fine, but I can't find what width, thread count, etc. I don't own any measuring tools that could give me this info, either, as I imagine it has to be a bit more exact than your typical tape measure reading, right?


Also, this is gonna sound stupid...but how exactly do you get the old ones out, and the new ones in? Just hammer em out? And then the new ones pop in from the back side of the disk? I plan on doing all four wheels...
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I snapped some wheel studs on my rear wheel. So, now I'm looking on summit to replace them with ARP studs. Only thing is, I did a search, and can not for the life of me find the size I need for my car. I need them to be slightly longer than the stock ones, which is fine, but I can't find what width, thread count, etc. I don't own any measuring tools that could give me this info, either, as I imagine it has to be a bit more exact than your typical tape measure reading, right?


Also, this is gonna sound stupid...but how exactly do you get the old ones out, and the new ones in? Just hammer em out? And then the new ones pop in from the back side of the disk? I plan on doing all four wheels...
you have to use a vette supplier or napa......
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The original studs were 7/16" x 20 threads per inch x 2" overall length.

To get them out just hammer them out.

To get them in, slip them in from the back and use some washers to take up the

slack and pull them in with a lugnut until they seat fully.

To get the rears on you will have to fit them in through the backing plates

and parking brake assembly, tricky but can be done.
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If you broke some you could step up to 1/2" studs. Would require 1/2" lug nuts of course. I run 1/2" in the rear.
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If you broke some you could step up to 1/2" studs. Would require 1/2" lug nuts of course. I run 1/2" in the rear.
Wouldn't that require drilling?


I AM looking for something stronger, as I am running spacers, which tax the studs to begin with, and wider wheels, which adds yet more stress.
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Originally Posted by wfo76
The original studs were 7/16" x 20 threads per inch x 2" overall length.

To get them out just hammer them out.

To get them in, slip them in from the back and use some washers to take up the

slack and pull them in with a lugnut until they seat fully.

To get the rears on you will have to fit them in through the backing plates

and parking brake assembly, tricky but can be done.
What do you mean, through the backing plate? The metal guard? Also, hammering the old ones out works for the rear as well, right? How will I know when they seat fully? Will it pop, or something?
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There is info on the 1/2-20 studs. Brett did his 68 on the car. You have to make a drill jig. I do them in the Bridgeport with just the spindle. For a stock setup use the 7/16-20 but get good lug nuts, the common ones roll the threads and lock up and will shear off the stud.
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As you've recently mentioned plans for tracking your car, which means you intend on abusing it, IMHO this is a good time go ahead and upgrade your studs to 1/2" x3". ...and don't skimp here.


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There is info on the 1/2-20 studs. Brett did his 68 on the car. You have to make a drill jig. I do them in the Bridgeport with just the spindle. For a stock setup use the 7/16-20 but get good lug nuts, the common ones roll the threads and lock up and will shear off the stud.
I would love to have you do these, as I'm not entirely sure how to go about drilling them..and I imagine a mistake would be costly, to say the least.


Problem is....how do I get my car to you??? I don't really want to buy new studs just to be able to drive it to the place to get the old ones replaced, know what I mean?
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As you've recently mentioned plans for tracking your car, which means you intend on abusing it, IMHO this is a good time go ahead and upgrade your studs to 1/2" x3". ...and don't skimp here.


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Yeah....I was abusing it when they broke....there is this one nice road up here that I like to drive at around 6 am, no traffic, nice curves, nothing too sharp, and the road is smoooooooth. I hit the next to last turn before the road merges onto rout 8, probably doing somewhere between 75 and 85 mph. And felt the rear tire kinda skip...not a powerslide, but skipping, so I got off it, slowed down, and at slow speeds felt a wobble. I thought it was either tire preassure, or I lost a weight on one, or I thought a lug nut mighta got lost.

Imagine my surprise, when I limp her home, to find that not one, not two, but THREE studs busted off.
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Originally Posted by KevinK
Yeah....I was abusing it when they broke....there is this one nice road up here that I like to drive at around 6 am, no traffic, nice curves, nothing too sharp, and the road is smoooooooth. I hit the next to last turn before the road merges onto rout 8, probably doing somewhere between 75 and 85 mph. And felt the rear tire kinda skip...not a powerslide, but skipping, so I got off it, slowed down, and at slow speeds felt a wobble. I thought it was either tire preassure, or I lost a weight on one, or I thought a lug nut mighta got lost.

Imagine my surprise, when I limp her home, to find that not one, not two, but THREE studs busted off.
ya think after all this that spacers are a good idea??.....if you have to run them find a set that bolts to the axle and has independant studs for the wheel......jmho......
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ya think after all this that spacers are a good idea??.....if you have to run them find a set that bolts to the axle and has independant studs for the wheel......jmho......
Did I miss something? Is he running hard with spacers?

Yeah, I'd get rid of those things, tho I don't care all that much for adapters either. But, if you simply must run spacers, definitely go to larger studs and run long reach lug nuts if you can. Depending on where you go and how you are classed, you may find some organizations and/or tracks which prohibit their use altogether, and some which require open ended lug nuts so tech can see that the studs are properly engaged.

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ya think after all this that spacers are a good idea??.....if you have to run them find a set that bolts to the axle and has independant studs for the wheel......jmho......
That's what I use. Adapters, spacers, I get em mixed up.



I don't think they even MAKE 3 inch spacers, lol.
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They are 3 inch hub centric adapters, aluminum.
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Did I miss something? Is he running hard with spacers?

Yeah, I'd get rid of those things, tho I don't care all that much for adapters either. But, if you simply must run spacers, definitely go to larger studs and run long reach lug nuts if you can. Depending on where you go and how you are classed, you may find some organizations and/or tracks which prohibit their use altogether, and some which require open ended lug nuts so tech can see that the studs are properly engaged.

I am using adapters, I just call them spacers sometimes.


Why don't you care for adapters? Aside from heavily modifying the frame, how would I get large wheels to fit? Off set T arms would not work, as the wheel would still hit the frame...
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Does anyone know what the length and width of the knurls are on the stock studs?
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I would say that a solid chunck of aluminum is fine for an adapter. The 7/16" stud in an ARP brand will be fine, If I remember right it has a higher tensel strength than the 1/2" standard stud. Studs that break are usually stressed form over tightning or the wheel is loose and has stressed the studs by shear forces from the wheel hitting it while moving around in the lug holes. The back and forth movement will thin the stud and reduce its shear strength.

I would suggest replacing them with 7/16" ARP studs and you should be fine for what you are doing.

Don't know the specifics of the studs

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OK, so I found the width of the knurl, .485.


Can any PLEASE let me know if they know the length? I have scoured the web, but I don't know if google knows the answer to this one, lol. I ask, because a friend of a friend knows a guy in a shop who is willing to do some custom work for me, but first, I gots to know what I NEED>>>


Thanks, guys.
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The spindle flange is .437(7/16) so you want to be sure the knurl doesn't come past the flange. replacement stock studs have about .312 shoulder on them but the kurl is only about .125

If you use ARP # 100-7701 it has a .486 Kurl diam,7/16-20 thread,. 420 kurl length and 3.165 length you'll have to machine them shorter if you want because stock is 1.750 long.

If your friend is going to do them on the car then the longer the stud the more room you need and you have to be sure to get them perpendicular. If he is going to do them like I do in the mill then you still have to be sure you follow the bolt pattern, if you go off it will screw up the alignment.
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You can sneak the studs in without drilling a hole in the dust shields if you shorten the studs by a couple of threads. Grease the threads of the studs and use stacks of washers and a nut to pull the studs in. Get a few of the proper size nut. The threads wear out pulling the studs in. Be sure to use a torque wrench to put your lugs on. Torque them to the specification. Run it a few miles and torque them again. After a couple times, they should seat the whole way. It important to be sure so they don't loosen up and shear off again.
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