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Old May 2, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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hello, i have been having problems with my horn for a while, and after fiddling around with it i figured i better come to the experts.
I have a 1970 t&t and the horn button has no "spring" in it at all. I am wondering if i am missing some peices, The horn will make a sound, but it doesnt really have any travel to it, and if i take a bump the horn will contact. Is there something i could be missing to make the horn button springy?
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Old May 2, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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The horn contact assembly is held together with 3 plastic rivets. My first guess is they have broken. Pull the horn button off you will see right away.
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that peice is new, i think it may have something to do with the horn button itself or possible with the peice that goes from the hub. Is that little contact supposed to have a little external spring? I am talking about the copper spring, is it located on the outside of the hub or inside the hub.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ace_cobra
that peice is new, i think it may have something to do with the horn button itself or possible with the peice that goes from the hub. Is that little contact supposed to have a little external spring? I am talking about the copper spring, is it located on the outside of the hub or inside the hub.
Do not know if your horn button is the same as in my 81 but from your description it sounds the same. Mine does not spring too much either but it does work.

It would seem to me that if yours is beeping sometimes when you hit a bump then maybe you have something loose. Mine has a little springy device that sits under the contact that you are describing then that ring is held on by three long phillips head screws.

From what I have heard, a lot of Corvettes (C-3's) have horn problems.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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You are talking about this? Tilt and tele is diffrent from a standard column

http://www.zip-corvette.com/Zip/prod...63577B3E19F5FF
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Old May 2, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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The "spring" in the horn button itself comes from the horn contact ring it is mounted to.

It is a nurled flexible ring mounted to a solid ring by nylon rivets. When you press the button it bends the nurled ring on the edge forcing contact with the solid ring thereby grounding the horn circuit.

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Old May 3, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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I have the exact same problem, in my 69 t&t have taken it apart and put it back together more times than i would like to admit, all parts are accounted for in correct order and all parts are new from vender but still no play in button, so now i don't feel quite so bad hopefully someone will come up with a good fix. I'm going to watch your post these guys usually have all the answers.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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do you mean this peice, http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G,

because i have already bought a new one of those and it still has the same problem. Could it be the horn button that attaches on to that peice?
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Originally Posted by ace_cobra
do you mean this peice, http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G,

because i have already bought a new one of those and it still has the same problem. Could it be the horn button that attaches on to that peice?
That is the piece with the flex for the button. The ridge in the horn button sits in the groove inside the part that sticks up. Don't push it on too far because the button is not supposed to touch the steering wheel. It is supposed to be suspended by the horn contact.

When you push on the horn button, the horn contact is what actually makes the horn blow.

Are you sure you have a horn button for a t/t column? They are different.

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is it a noticable size different, because i beleive i have the right one, it fits flush with the rest of the column.
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i have a 68 with telescopic column that uses two shims under my horn contact .
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Originally Posted by ace_cobra
is it a noticable size different, because i beleive i have the right one, it fits flush with the rest of the column.
I don't know about the underside where it attaches to the horn contact but the topside is different in that it is curved from the top to the lower edge rather than being a sharp corner.

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which one is sharp and which one is curved?
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The horn contact assy (in the Zip link) was the fix for my 70 vert. The plastic piece is key as it keeps the contact rod from touching the wall of the cylinder it sits into. Once I figured the assy process and reassembled the spring, rod and plastic, the horn works everytime.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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I have a non working horn in my '81 with T&T and I figured out that I don't have the plastic rivets in my wheel, nor the spring and button. All the other parts were duct taped together so they wouldn't jiggle or get lost under the horn button. Anyway, there is a paper gasket that goes between the horn button retainer and the spiral spring contact. This little gasket is sandwiched in between the two by the plastic rivets. Pushing down on the horn button causes the horn button retainer to deflect enough to ground the connection and make the noise (assuming all other items good).

Also, my horn assy has 3 shims. Took me a while to figure out how it went together even with the assy manual that doesn't indicate any plastic rivets or the paper gasket.

I'll be checking the vendor sites looking for the rivets and a new gasket although I am thinking of just glueing my two pieces of old gasket to the horn contact that has the L shaped tab on it.
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