C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

stiff steering

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 29, 2009 | 04:08 PM
  #1  
painterman52's Avatar
painterman52
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: crystal lake Il.
Default stiff steering

I just replaced the power steering pump valve cylinder and hoses. The old stuff worked well but was leaky and ugly. Now my steering is very stiff and a little erratic the wheel needs to be turned both ways, it doesn`t come back by itself. Any ideas?
Reply
Old May 29, 2009 | 06:05 PM
  #2  
doctorgene's Avatar
doctorgene
Drifting
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,889
Likes: 23
From: Kansas
Default

Yes Sir; I'm sure you will find a lot smarter person, but it sounds like you need to Balance your power steering control valve. You can get that info. from the co. that sold you the parts or from the Corvette Shop Manual. I know Wilcox will have the info. if you just ask. Have a great weekend. Gene
Reply
Old May 29, 2009 | 07:07 PM
  #3  
Duke94's Avatar
Duke94
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,640
Likes: 287
From: Ann Arbor Michigan
Default

Did you grease the fitting on the control valve? If so, too much grease causes hard steering. Also, you could have a bad control valve. I went through 3 "rebuilt" ones before I got a good one. Try the balance procedure first.

Gary
Reply
Old May 29, 2009 | 07:08 PM
  #4  
painterman52's Avatar
painterman52
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: crystal lake Il.
Default

I balanced it once. should I do it again. The valve and cylinder came from willcox the pump from oreilly`s. Could it be the pump since it steers hard both ways?
Reply
Old May 29, 2009 | 08:56 PM
  #5  
stock76's Avatar
stock76
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 28
From: Lutz Florida
Default

Did you bleed the air out of the PS pump after you installed it? If there is still some air left in the system the fluid will be foamy when you check it. That could give you the problem too.
Reply
Old May 30, 2009 | 02:21 PM
  #6  
bruiser's Avatar
bruiser
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 120 Days
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,707
Likes: 268
From: S.E. MI
St. Jude Donor '15
Default


I also have a problem with my steering wheel not returning by it self
back to center after I put in a new valve and cylinder. Seems to be
worse on left turns. I checked the balance on the valve and it's good.
I'm going to try to disable my power steering to see if the problem goes
away. If it don't go away I might have an alignment problem. I rebuilt
the front suspension at the same time I put the new valve and cylinder
on.
Reply
Old May 30, 2009 | 03:06 PM
  #7  
Duke94's Avatar
Duke94
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,640
Likes: 287
From: Ann Arbor Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by bruiser

I also have a problem with my steering wheel not returning by it self
back to center after I put in a new valve and cylinder. Seems to be
worse on left turns. I checked the balance on the valve and it's good.
I'm going to try to disable my power steering to see if the problem goes
away. If it don't go away I might have an alignment problem. I rebuilt
the front suspension at the same time I put the new valve and cylinder
on.
Did you have a alignment after the rebuild? If the caster is off (not enough of it), the wheels won't come back very well.

Gary
Reply
Old May 30, 2009 | 04:26 PM
  #8  
painterman52's Avatar
painterman52
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: crystal lake Il.
Default

Mine was working fine. I only put the new parts on to clean it up. Now it`s bad, very stiff in both directions and it won`t come back to center. I centered the valve again and no help. I`m about ready to put the greasy old stuff back on.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old May 30, 2009 | 04:51 PM
  #9  
Duke94's Avatar
Duke94
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,640
Likes: 287
From: Ann Arbor Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by painterman52
Mine was working fine. I only put the new parts on to clean it up. Now it`s bad, very stiff in both directions and it won`t come back to center. I centered the valve again and no help. I`m about ready to put the greasy old stuff back on.
It sounds like you got a bad valve. As I said earlier, I got 2 bad ones before I got a good one and it has happened to others on this forum.

Gary
Reply
Old May 30, 2009 | 06:16 PM
  #10  
grandmastercorvette's Avatar
0grandmastercorvette
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 766
Likes: 3
From: Charlotte North Carolina 704-394-5150
Default

The power steering system is self bleeding. The air will come to the top if the filling procedure was followed in the manual. IS your air pressure in the tires correect, if so and nobody messed around with the adjustment in the gear box, sounds like a bad control valve. Could be a bad pump, not building up enough pressure. Good luck.
Reply
Old May 30, 2009 | 07:53 PM
  #11  
SteveG75's Avatar
SteveG75
Race Director
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 10,039
Likes: 668
From: FL
Default

I just had this same problem. I got a new valve from a reputable supplier back in January. No power steering. Got a replacement and finally got around to installing it today. Result, still no power steering.

Put the old stuff back on and everything works just fine. I think I will just deal with the slight leak.
Reply
Old May 30, 2009 | 08:18 PM
  #12  
Willcox Corvette's Avatar
0Willcox Corvette
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 76,656
Likes: 1,851
From: Jeffersonville Indiana 812-288-7103
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Default

Painter,

Did you use the factory centering instructions on the valve or balance it with the cylinder attached to the frame bracket? The valve should always be balanced as described at the link below.

Here are things you might check.

Balance the valve per these instructions. http://willcoxcorvette.com/repairand...lp.php?hID=188

Make sure you have the hoses to the valve X'd. This is a common mistake and people sometimes assume the top hose on the valve is the top hose on the cylinder. I’m not saying you made this error but it never hurts to check!
http://willcoxcorvette.com/repairand...lp.php?hID=129

I hate to say it, but if the system pass’s the above, I would lean toward the pump over the valve and cylinder. I can not remember the last defective new valve we had. I’m not saying it is impossible for the valve to be bad and it could be so lets not rule this out just yet.
Willcox Inc.
Reply
Old May 30, 2009 | 09:54 PM
  #13  
painterman52's Avatar
painterman52
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: crystal lake Il.
Default

I`m going to put just the old valve back in, if it works that`s the problem. It is adjusted correctly. I`ll check the hoses, but I think they are on right. Thanks for any and all suggestions. It is very frusrating!
Reply
Old May 30, 2009 | 10:40 PM
  #14  
TPI BOY's Avatar
TPI BOY
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,179
Likes: 3
From: STANTON CA
Default

Try to explain this one. Old valve worked fine, just leaked.
Put new valve on centered it and it worked fine.
Had to make a right turn and with my foot on
the brake I tried to turn right, couldn't turn the wheel.
Took my foot off the brake it turned fine, so I tried it on a
left turn, foot on the brake worked fine, it only
happens when i'm turning right and putting pressure on
the brake petal
Reply
Old May 31, 2009 | 01:52 PM
  #15  
painterman52's Avatar
painterman52
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: crystal lake Il.
Default

It was the valve. I put the old one back in and it`s all good. Didn`t touch anything else.
Reply
Old May 31, 2009 | 03:02 PM
  #16  
SteveG75's Avatar
SteveG75
Race Director
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 10,039
Likes: 668
From: FL
Default

Painter, same problem I had.

I have new tried two brand new valves with the same issue. Pump works fine with old valve. Hoses crossed, properly bled, properly balanced. New valve = no power assist at all. Only component changed.
Reply
Old May 31, 2009 | 04:18 PM
  #17  
Duke94's Avatar
Duke94
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,640
Likes: 287
From: Ann Arbor Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by painterman52
It was the valve. I put the old one back in and it`s all good. Didn`t touch anything else.
It's to bad the aftermarket doesn't know how to rebuild these valves. This has been a common problem in this forum.

Gary
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To stiff steering

Old May 31, 2009 | 06:21 PM
  #18  
Willcox Corvette's Avatar
0Willcox Corvette
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 76,656
Likes: 1,851
From: Jeffersonville Indiana 812-288-7103
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Default

Steve: Email sent

Painter: Please email me at Willcoxcustomerservice@Willcoxcorvette.c om

Thank you.

Willcox
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2020 | 06:29 PM
  #19  
tonykeran's Avatar
tonykeran
3rd Gear
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default Same exact stuff steering problem after new install

Originally Posted by painterman52
Mine was working fine. I only put the new parts on to clean it up. Now it`s bad, very stiff in both directions and it won`t come back to center. I centered the valve again and no help. I`m about ready to put the greasy old stuff back on.
exact same thing just happened to me i, i put on new stuff and it’s worse than the old set up . I balanced it , belts and fluids are all perfect . Only things was the grease I’ll try that now

Last edited by tonykeran; Jun 30, 2020 at 06:30 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2020 | 06:42 PM
  #20  
Rescue Rogers's Avatar
Rescue Rogers
Is my vette stock?? HAHA
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 20,118
Likes: 9,247
From: Im not allowed to tell you
2020 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
2019 C3 of Year Winner (performance mods)
2016 C3 of Year Finalist
Default

this is a very old thread, but you need to bleed the system. Try turning the wheel to the stops each way 10 times. And do not grease that zirq fitting. ITs for assembly only
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:58 PM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE