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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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I have tried to Rebild my TH350 but must have done something wrong.
I bough the book from ATSG GM THM 350C
I have used a rebuld kit TCI-328800 into a TH350 from -76.
I thought everything went ok and managed to replace all clutches, bands seals and so on.
But when I now done a test run the 1st gear doesnt work. When I put the shifter in nr 1 gear , nothing happends, it as neutral. When I put it in Drive it starts on the second gear and smoothly up to third gear and the reverse is also working ok.
There is no noise that should not be there.
One strange thing. I got 1pcs clutch drive plate (faced) and 1 pcs Clutch drive plate (steel) left over. I counted the qty of the old and put in the same nrs and then this was left over, is that correct ?
Hope someone could help with an idea and maybe mounted the same kit as me.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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I'm not tranny guy, but based on what you've said, I'd check first that the shifter linkage isn't binding and is properly adjusted.

Good onya for building your own tranny though!
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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Should it not start in 1st gear anyway when it is in D position ?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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it realy sounds like the detent cable is off from the indicator. so when its in drive its second and so on.

good job building your own trans! big props for trying that! on overhaulin there was a kid who built transmissions blindfolded!!!
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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I could have found the problem now. It seems like the vacum modulator valve is stuck in the bottom. The problem is that I dont know what I need to dismount to release this. I took away the Itermediate clutch but that was not the way to reach it as I could see. Will I reach it if I take away the body valve ?
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Corvette -76
I could have found the problem now. It seems like the vacum modulator valve is stuck in the bottom. The problem is that I dont know what I need to dismount to release this. I took away the Itermediate clutch but that was not the way to reach it as I could see. Will I reach it if I take away the body valve ?
The piston inside the vacuum can itself? or the piston in the tranny? If the piston in the can is stuck, replace the modulator, if the piston in the tranny is stuck you have a burr or trash in the valve body stopping the piston from moving and that has to be fixed. If you cant get some needle nose pliers in there and get it out gently by turning and pulling, youll have to remove the valve body and find what is holding it in to get it out. Did you put the spring for the piston back in? This could also be it.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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It was the vacum modulator in the tranny that I thought was stuck but it was rather easy to take it out with a plier. But should it be a spring there ?? On mine it wasnt, and I cant find that it shows any in the book either. My guess is that this piston is regulated by oilpressure and not by a spring. I dont know what to do now if I should put it together and hope that is was some small trash at the piston that I couldnt see and make a new test run. Maybe it isnt enough oil pressure at this piston?
There is three different location to check oil pressure and one of them is where the vacum modulator valve in the tranny is fitted. How high should the oil pressure be there ?? Is it 62 psi at Idle speed ?

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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Corvette -76
One strange thing. I got 1pcs clutch drive plate (faced) and 1 pcs Clutch drive plate (steel) left over. I counted the qty of the old and put in the same nrs and then this was left over, is that correct ?

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Did you make sure of the final clearance between the last plate and the cover plate?
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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Yes , ref the bok it should be between .011 and .082" and that it was.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Corvette -76
It was the vacum modulator in the tranny that I thought was stuck but it was rather easy to take it out with a plier. But should it be a spring there ?? On mine it wasnt, and I cant find that it shows any in the book either. My guess is that this piston is regulated by oilpressure and not by a spring. I dont know what to do now if I should put it together and hope that is was some small trash at the piston that I couldnt see and make a new test run. Maybe it isnt enough oil pressure at this piston?
There is three different location to check oil pressure and one of them is where the vacum modulator valve in the tranny is fitted. How high should the oil pressure be there ?? Is it 62 psi at Idle speed ?
You said you got the TCI kit, there should have been a gold spring that will allow upshift a little sooner or you could use the stock spring. One has to be there to provide positive pressure on the modulator for it to work properly. The valve only opens and closes off the fluid flow, the springs and modulator do the work of moving the valve. Ill try to find a pic in the TCI papers of the spring.

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Red, send me your email and I will mail you a copy of the page from the TCI instructions were the spring is mentioned.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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VETTEVIC, I found one gold spring that I didnt know where it should fit , its .43 " diam and .55" long , could it be it ?
Please feel free to send TCI insruktion, the one I got with the kit was not good at all. Only showed some of the rebuilding.
Mail: lindqvist.kenneth@telia.com
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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I just want to say that the problem seems to be solved. It was a golden spring at the vacuum modulator piston inside the tranny that was missing. I didn’t have any spring there as original and ref TCI manual was this golden only if you wanted to have earlier shifting points.
But VETTEVIC suggested me to put this in anyway, I did so and then the thirst gear worked !! I have still some small adjustments to do because the kick down function is slow, I need to have the pedal in the floor longer than I want before it kick down. Also it seems to not kick down by the vacuum when I not full throttle but that could be that I have low vacuum since the cam is for rather high rpm. I must empty some oil also because it was little to high when it was hot , then can it be foam in oil and that’s not good. Thanks VETTEVIC and everybody else who have come up with ideas.
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