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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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I recently installed a 400 with a high volume oil pump and have had nothing but problems. oil leaking out of the intake manifold bolts (permatexed and a couple still leak) and oil leaking out of the distributor gasket ( changed gaskets, tightened, etc ). Is there any problem with just going back to a stock pump? I seem to be building way too much pressure in the crankcase. I never had this problem with the 350 with the stock pump.
The engine seems to be fine when I'm taking it easy, but when I get on it the trouble starts and the blue smoke appears from oil falling on the headers....I hate blue smoke!!!!!
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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sounds like you may have a HV /HP pump.?, Ive always used stock m55 mellings pumps in my engines, if they're street driven. I had a dyers 6-71 S/C 350, 68 camaro back in the eighties, and ran a stock pump no problems, on the street of course.
if you're blowing oil out of gaskets and bolts, sounds to me like you have a crankcase pressure problem, pcv valve working? or alot of blowby the rings.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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A stock pump will work just fine for a street machine.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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The block was machined at a local shop. New rotating assembly, pistons and rings. I'm hoping I'm not getting blowby!
How can I determine if I am?
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Oil pump won't do any of the things you're talking about. You've either got too much crankcase pressure or not enough venting.

Oil pressure/volume has nothing to do with crankcase pressure.

Time for a leakdown check.


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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
Oil pump won't do any of the things you're talking about. You've either got too much crankcase pressure or not enough venting.

Oil pressure/volume has nothing to do with crankcase pressure.

Time for a leakdown check.


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I did the same thing on my dad's 80 L-82
the same crap was happing to us !
you'll never get it fixed right
stock oil pump is the only way to go

what you oil pressure?
are pressure was about min70-100 max
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
Oil pump won't do any of the things you're talking about. You've either got too much crankcase pressure or not enough venting.

Oil pressure/volume has nothing to do with crankcase pressure.

Time for a leakdown check.


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PCV system as well.

[Consider this the obligatory do not use HV/HP pumps in SBCs comment]
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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
Oil pump won't do any of the things you're talking about. You've either got too much crankcase pressure or not enough venting.

Oil pressure/volume has nothing to do with crankcase pressure.

Time for a leakdown check.


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Oil pump is not the culprit here
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The OP's question was "Is there any problem with just going back to the stock pump?" The answer is, "No."
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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It's not the oil pump, like everyone else said you are having too much crankcase pressure. check the PCV, and if it isnt that do a leakdown test.
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I agree with the crank pressure, not pump pressure.
Is this a performance build?
Could you need a windage tray?
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
The OP's question was "Is there any problem with just going back to the stock pump?" The answer is, "No."
Agreed, no problem going back to a stock pump, however thats not likely to fix the issues he's reported.
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Originally Posted by fauxrs2
Agreed, no problem going back to a stock pump, however thats not likely to fix the issues he's reported.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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Oil pressure and base pressure are 2 issues here and being a 400 block and if it was just bored and honed with out a Torque plate which most local machine shops don't believe in your problem is probably a blowby issue as 400 blocks with he thin decks thin cylinders and the head bolts being extremely close to the cylinder bore will show more distortion then a 350 block will.

It hard to get round rings to seal in cylinder bores .003 distortion or more

Do a leak down test at TDC on each cylinder and if its over 8% you have some ring seal issues.

Make sure your PCV system is complete

Here is a link to look over
http://www.chevytalk.org/threads/sho...page/0#1227305
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Originally Posted by fauxrs2
Agreed, no problem going back to a stock pump, however thats not likely to fix the issues he's reported.
That's the point...doesn't help him much if we don't fix his problem.

We could lower it to 10psi and it would still have blowby.


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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
That's the point...doesn't help him much if we don't fix his problem.

We could lower it to 10psi and it would still have blowby.


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I absolutely agree, I was responding to a previous post
The OP's question was "Is there any problem with just going back to the stock pump?" The answer is, "No."
this quite true, there should be no problem going to a stock pump, but that isn't going to fix the problem. The fact that none of the leak locations are located at a point of direct oil pressure is a big clue. The OP is suffering from increased crankcase pressures which is independant of oil pump pressure.
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