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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Friend of mine has a remote that he starts the car with from 30 feet away and lets it run with the A/C on to cool it down before he gets in.

It's part of the aftermarket alarm system.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Hey Guys,

Corvettes are a nice install because the the body dose not block the low-freq pulse.

You can also use any N/O button you want.
Just send your button and we will customize a Star Drive for you.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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what's a good aftermarket alarm system?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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I'm not equipped to advise here ... but ...

Here at CF, we're blessed with a resident EE & small but dedicated support staff ... posts seem to imply superior knowledge of points to hei conversion, current & resistance, voltage drop, ignition module design etc. If it's not too pedestrian ... perhaps they'd solve this keyless pushbutton for Chris.
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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I settled on a system for now.

I love the stardrive unit - no question it is superior for overall one...and done rf keyless...etc. etc.

However, it is pricey, and I'm not 100% sold on the reliability of these as a stand alone - and how to overcome any issues if it were to fail out on the road. Also, I have never been one to be an early adopter of technology...so part of that is my personality.

What I did go with is the Watson hot-dot push button starter system. It is more "mechanical" in nature as it uses a series of relays instead of sealed electronics to do the trick. It routes through a single back glow push button. One push - car turns on, second push - it starts - third push, it stops.

Now...how do we secure the car you might ask? Going to do that through a standard keyless entry alarm system. I'm not even ready yet to select one - so I'll search the market once we are at that point to find one that best suits my needs for features I want the car to do...then wire it into the ignition.

Through secured wiring, the only way to start the car will be to disarm it - and on the standard security mode for most keyless systems it will re-arm every so often automatically so I can't get out of the car and forget to set it. Around the shop it will be in Valet and I'll have no need for keys.

It will run through the clutch, so my 5 year old can't accidentally start it.

Total cost was $130 for the hot dot, then I will spend anywhere from $100 - $250 on a an alarm rf system.

The picture below is just the button. The relay pack that latches and fires the ignition/starter is designed to direct wire and mount behind the dash.

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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 69Myway
One push - car turns on, second push - it starts - third push, it stops.
Not sure how foolproof this button is at controlling relays but I sure hope it doesn't get #2 and #3 mixed up. I personally would much rather have direct control over the starter engagement.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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I like the stardrive deal quite a bit but seeing as it is new and it will take me about 1-2 years to finish out my vette I think I might get this one and as a side effect of me just starting my car I think that they will have both worked out the kinks and maybe even have lowered the price.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 69Myway
I settled on a system for now.

I love the stardrive unit - no question it is superior for overall one...and done rf keyless...etc. etc.

However, it is pricey, and I'm not 100% sold on the reliability of these as a stand alone - and how to overcome any issues if it were to fail out on the road. Also, I have never been one to be an early adopter of technology...so part of that is my personality.

What I did go with is the Watson hot-dot push button starter system. It is more "mechanical" in nature as it uses a series of relays instead of sealed electronics to do the trick. It routes through a single back glow push button. One push - car turns on, second push - it starts - third push, it stops.

Now...how do we secure the car you might ask? Going to do that through a standard keyless entry alarm system. I'm not even ready yet to select one - so I'll search the market once we are at that point to find one that best suits my needs for features I want the car to do...then wire it into the ignition.

Through secured wiring, the only way to start the car will be to disarm it - and on the standard security mode for most keyless systems it will re-arm every so often automatically so I can't get out of the car and forget to set it. Around the shop it will be in Valet and I'll have no need for keys.

It will run through the clutch, so my 5 year old can't accidentally start it.

Total cost was $130 for the hot dot, then I will spend anywhere from $100 - $250 on a an alarm rf system.

The picture below is just the button. The relay pack that latches and fires the ignition/starter is designed to direct wire and mount behind the dash.


that is the exact system i have. watsons has some nice stuff. the stardrive was too pricey for me too. i too am a little funny about new tech. i am still in the building phase of the car and am using a key right now to test everything but will be swapping over to the push button later. let me know when you find an alarm system that will fit the bill. i am interested in seeing what will work.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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I finally had a chance to try it out (on a test bench).

If you have followed my 8.1 swap - you know I hit a snag as my ebay engine turned out to be a turd.

Anyway, heads are back on - hot cam installed - and now that the pushrods came today...I'll be banging it together and test starting.

With that said, I put the hot dot on the bench using a light to represent the igntion and a headlight motor to represent the starter solenoid.

All I can say is...it works...very well.

I have moved the assembly to the car and added an 80 amp relay to power up the accessory/ignition items.

Here is the deal. Because it is a MANUAL shift and I have a neutral clutch switch...this works very well. If I want to just turn on the power to play the radio, etc, I just don't push the clutch and push the button. That would normally engage the starter - but since the clutch isn't in, it only turns on the power. One more push and it all drops out.

To start, push in the clutch and hit the button, it runs....thenhit it again to kill it.

The clutch switch keeps my 5 year old son from jumping in and starting it.

I have many options on the alarm protection. Basically, I'll tie it to either the starter or main power coming into the switch. All of this will be deeply tucked in the dash, and should take just as long if not longer to "hot wire" than a stock switch and standard alarm.

I won't have a key at all - just a fob to unlock and lock (arm/disarm) the alarm and ignition.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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C'mon, man!!!
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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How does the starting work? Do you press the button once and release or hold it until the engine starts like a key? I've been wanting to do something similar but have a switch for ign. and a button to start.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by michalbugno2006
How does the starting work? Do you press the button once and release or hold it until the engine starts like a key? I've been wanting to do something similar but have a switch for ign. and a button to start.
Here is how the HOTDOT works.

Push the clutch in, and hold the switch down. The ignition locks and the starter spins. Once the engine is running you let go of the button - engine stays running and the light glows. When you want to kill it, push the button.

If I just want the ignition on, but not start the engine, I simply don't push the clutch in and push the button once to turn it all on, then once again to turn it off.

I am using the 80 amp relay to hold the accessory circuit (optional).

My alarm/keyless will unlock/lock the doors and turn on/off the starter defeat module. I can put it in on the starter, fuel pump, ignition - etc, (anything that I want to break when the alarm is set).

So...I will have a key fob only once this car is on the road.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 69Myway
Everything is on the table...and I'm thinking about a cool way to do a PUSH to start button - like a C6.

Getting the button isn't the problem.

http://cgi.ebay.com/PUSH-BUTTON-ENGI...3A1%7C294%3A50

The thing is - this would still require a metal key to turn the ignition on...then a second step to push the button - not cool.

I would like to wire the keyless entry system to turn the ignition on so when you get in you just push the button - no metal key. - then ... how do you turn it off????

I'm sure somebody has done this - ideas?
ONE WAY would be to add a proximity system, it allows you to bypass the key, and use a button. It would take some work, but I think it would be cool.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Flaming River has been making a system for years. See it here. http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cf...rod/prd379.htm

It works like the new Vettes. There is no key. Once the key fob is within a predetermined distance from controller(drivers seat), you just push the button to start.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 01:39 AM
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If you were to use the C6 start button it is lit up green on top when you enter the car so you can see it at night with the key flob, after You have the car running it s lower section is lit red and you push that part to shut the engine off.
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