Pretty lines.....
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Team Owner
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From: Orange Park Florida
Pretty lines.....
Other than appearance, just what is the complete fascination with all these expensive mesh/silver/stainless plumbing lines???
crazy color fittings, fancy dan crap NO factory ever uses for anything.....
what does this bring to the table other than appearance???
MY car is a DD, I see no reason for that stuff, much less the expense.....
crazy color fittings, fancy dan crap NO factory ever uses for anything.....
what does this bring to the table other than appearance???
MY car is a DD, I see no reason for that stuff, much less the expense.....
Melting Slicks
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From: Piedmont Va
St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13,'19-'20
Other than appearance, just what is the complete fascination with all these expensive mesh/silver/stainless plumbing lines???
crazy color fittings, fancy dan crap NO factory ever uses for anything.....
what does this bring to the table other than appearance???
MY car is a DD, I see no reason for that stuff, much less the expense.....
crazy color fittings, fancy dan crap NO factory ever uses for anything.....
what does this bring to the table other than appearance???
MY car is a DD, I see no reason for that stuff, much less the expense.....
I'm all for a clean and brightened engine bay, ( I have Billet valve covers, chrome air cleaner lid, alumin TC cover etc)...but hoses and fuel lines are all stock materials. The braided hoses are gaudy to me and certainly not worth the cost and PIA.
Racer
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From: Holcomb Mississippi
fancy dan
MrVette,LOL. You really made my day and I'm laughing hard! I think it's personnal prefernece if you ask me. When I see it, I think it looks great, but I realize it serves no purpose. It's just window dressing.
andy
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Racer
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From: Enfield CT
Other than appearance, just what is the complete fascination with all these expensive mesh/silver/stainless plumbing lines???
crazy color fittings, fancy dan crap NO factory ever uses for anything.....
what does this bring to the table other than appearance???
MY car is a DD, I see no reason for that stuff, much less the expense.....
crazy color fittings, fancy dan crap NO factory ever uses for anything.....
what does this bring to the table other than appearance???
MY car is a DD, I see no reason for that stuff, much less the expense.....
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ummm, ......safety ? braided lines espically the real ones are rated much higher burst pressures, i would choose them over standard rubber lines any day. 69VETT
actually I prefer hard stainless lines, it is easy to custom make hard stainless lines.
actually I prefer hard stainless lines, it is easy to custom make hard stainless lines.
Racer
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From: Tuscaloosa AL
Just don't use them. You excluded "appearance" in your post, but that's a primary reason why for lots of folks and there's nothing wrong with that. Personally, I like the look of colored spark plug wires, heater hoses, and vacuum lines. Braided stainless has a real use in high-pressure applications like at my biofuel company. As such, the braided look evokes robustness and hi-tech. I like to use braided for EFI fuel lines when I can. But there are also functional reasons; look at braided brake lines - the braiding there is definitely for a real functional reason. Additionally, look at aluminum and stainless fittings - definitely safer in fuel applications. Also, I like stainless steel flexible heater and water hoses, because I usually modify my cooling systems and they are easier to deal with in modification applications.
I guess the good news for you is that nobody will ever force you to use them!
Burning Brakes
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it's an appearance thing. i love them - but not much on my car that isn't flashy.
Actually, I don't think the stiainless hoses and anodized fittings disapate heat as well as factory materials.
Actually, I don't think the stiainless hoses and anodized fittings disapate heat as well as factory materials.
Melting Slicks
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From: Redruth Cornwall
ummm, ......safety ? braided lines espically the real ones are rated much higher burst pressures, i would choose them over standard rubber lines any day. 69VETT
actually I prefer hard stainless lines, it is easy to custom make hard stainless lines.
AND
here is a better example of why I would not use rubber lines. 69VETT
actually I prefer hard stainless lines, it is easy to custom make hard stainless lines.
AND
here is a better example of why I would not use rubber lines. 69VETT
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Did you happen to notice there is no car in the picture ?
this thread was NOT discussing air filters,
in was a discussion on why people use braided hoses.
amazing how people nit-pik, off-topic over pictures.
some people go out of their way to post pics, and offer constructive suggestions,
and others go out of their way to bash others.
"this breather was used to fire up the motor and tune it,
only as a tempary solution for Tuning and setup."
I am very aware of the flamibility of these breathers.
This fourm would be a much better if more supportive conversations
took place, instead of flame throwers.
If you have some pictures showing examples of Braided hoses,
or the results post them, if not, don't **** on me. 69VETT
this thread was NOT discussing air filters,
in was a discussion on why people use braided hoses.
amazing how people nit-pik, off-topic over pictures.
some people go out of their way to post pics, and offer constructive suggestions,
and others go out of their way to bash others.
"this breather was used to fire up the motor and tune it,
only as a tempary solution for Tuning and setup."
I am very aware of the flamibility of these breathers.
This fourm would be a much better if more supportive conversations
took place, instead of flame throwers.
If you have some pictures showing examples of Braided hoses,
or the results post them, if not, don't **** on me. 69VETT
Last edited by 69Vett; Jul 17, 2009 at 12:14 PM.
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From: Who says "Nothing is impossible" ? I've been doing nothing for years.
The appearance is more pleasing to my eye but the reason I use them is also for the reason they were invented, not for dressup but they are safer with the AN type fittings and will handle more pressure with the stainless webbing, hence stainless braided brake hoses on mine with the high pressures created by the hydroboost braking system. 
Chrome valve covers do nothing for performance or safety and they are not in the same category as braided stainless hoses
Chrome valve covers do nothing for performance or safety and they are not in the same category as braided stainless hoses
Last edited by MotorHead; Jul 18, 2009 at 11:46 AM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Redruth Cornwall
Did you happen to notice there is no car in the picture ?
this thread was NOT discussing air filters,
in was a discussion on why people use braided hoses.
amazing how people nit-pik, off-topic over pictures.
some people go out of their way to post pics, and offer constructive suggestions,
and others go out of their way to bash others.
"this breather was used to fire up the motor and tune it,
only as a tempary solution for Tuning and setup."
I am very aware of the flamibility of these breathers.
This fourm would be a much better if more supportive conversations
took place, instead of flame throwers.
If you have some pictures showing examples of Braided hoses,
or the results post them, if not, don't **** on me. 69VETT
this thread was NOT discussing air filters,
in was a discussion on why people use braided hoses.
amazing how people nit-pik, off-topic over pictures.
some people go out of their way to post pics, and offer constructive suggestions,
and others go out of their way to bash others.
"this breather was used to fire up the motor and tune it,
only as a tempary solution for Tuning and setup."
I am very aware of the flamibility of these breathers.
This fourm would be a much better if more supportive conversations
took place, instead of flame throwers.
If you have some pictures showing examples of Braided hoses,
or the results post them, if not, don't **** on me. 69VETT
1, Saftey, I agree, a purpose built braided line is probably safer than a standard rubber fuel hose....just go tell that to all the many thousands of us that run standard rubber gas hoses on our stock, fuel injected, from factory, modern day daily drivers.
2, Nit picking your picture....sorry, as you said, the OP was basically slamming the use of braided lines, you post a picture but I dont seem to be able to see any braided lines there.
You put forward your preference for stainless hard lines but offered no constructive reasoning as to why braided are so much better than standard rubber hose. At the end of the day, most stuff bought today is capable of much higher pressures than the rubber hoses of 30-40 years Ago.
All I was saying was that after posting that stuff about saftey, and a pic with no braided lines, you post a pic with a fire hazard.
Last edited by jotto; Jul 17, 2009 at 05:34 PM.
Racer
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From: Marietta Georgia
Just don't use them. You excluded "appearance" in your post, but that's a primary reason why for lots of folks and there's nothing wrong with that. Personally, I like the look of colored spark plug wires, heater hoses, and vacuum lines. Braided stainless has a real use in high-pressure applications like at my biofuel company. As such, the braided look evokes robustness and hi-tech. I like to use braided for EFI fuel lines when I can. But there are also functional reasons; look at braided brake lines - the braiding there is definitely for a real functional reason. Additionally, look at aluminum and stainless fittings - definitely safer in fuel applications. Also, I like stainless steel flexible heater and water hoses, because I usually modify my cooling systems and they are easier to deal with in modification applications.
I guess the good news for you is that nobody will ever force you to use them!
Good job.
Melting Slicks
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From: winter haven florida
St. Jude Donor '12
true braded hose with an fittings are required in some racing classes due to their higher pressure handling and abrasion resistance. they are also used in aircraft because of their superior performance over plain rubber and clamps. many use them on street cars for the looky factor but they also provide a little safety benefit to go with the looks. i went with them because they are safer and i can use the fittings to get the bends i want with no kinks in the hose. i also think they look good too.
