Ignition Cylinder Help Needed
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Racer
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Ignition Cylinder Help Needed
I need to replace my ignition cylinder seeing as it doesn't lock anymore and I really don't think it even works anymore. My question is, I have a tilt telescoping wheel and I've gotten to the spring for the telescoping part and I don't know what to do next.. The little instructions that I've gotten from the new ignition say something about a puller but I have no idea what that is and I know I don't have one in my garage. What do I do???
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Racer
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So my local Advanced Auto will carry it?? That's promising.. Getting worried there for a sec. Thanks for responding too I was getting nervous! Jim's paper's are helping me out already, but I'm a little worried about the retaining rod that locks the telescope in place because I don't know where it is located. But thanks again.
Le Mans Master
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Yes, Advanced Auto will have it. You will need a set screw to temporarily replace lock screw so the tele part doesn't push in while you use the tool. Look at the picture below. Remove the 2 small phillips screws which will allow you to turn the big phillips screw in the center which is the piece that pushes on the rod that hold the column in place.
Gary
Gary
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Racer
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Ok I think I'm almost in the clear now. While I'm thinking of it, the three pieces of metal that are the upper horn contacts I believe are pretty rusty, should I sand them down before I replace them? And on the horn button itself the flags are white, shouldn't they be colored?
Thanks for all the help again Gary.
Thanks for all the help again Gary.
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Gary
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Le Mans Master
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Ok I think I'm almost in the clear now. While I'm thinking of it, the three pieces of metal that are the upper horn contacts I believe are pretty rusty, should I sand them down before I replace them? And on the horn button itself the flags are white, shouldn't they be colored?
Thanks for all the help again Gary.
Thanks for all the help again Gary.
Gary
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Racer
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Thank you again Gary.. I'll clean up the contacts, but I'm still utterly stumped on where to use the tool.. I have the same one as you do I believe, but I'm not sure if I went far enough to use it or not? I put it on a piece that has 3 screws on the back of it supported by a spring and rod, same piece of metal that the steering wheel itself attaches to.. The tool doesn't seem to fit well over it though and it's very hard to turn. I have no idea how to take it off though..
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St. Jude Donor '10
Thank you again Gary.. I'll clean up the contacts, but I'm still utterly stumped on where to use the tool.. I have the same one as you do I believe, but I'm not sure if I went far enough to use it or not? I put it on a piece that has 3 screws on the back of it supported by a spring and rod, same piece of metal that the steering wheel itself attaches to.. The tool doesn't seem to fit well over it though and it's very hard to turn. I have no idea how to take it off though..
Proper tool use--
1)Screw the center down onto the steering column shaft.
2)Adjust the wing nut so that the 2 metal legs touch the locking plate
3)Screw down the wing nut while watching the locking plate.When the plate isn't touching the C-retainer anymore, remove the C-retainer.
4)Loosen the tool and unscrew it from the steering column shaft .
5)Remove the locking plate and keep digging.
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St. Jude Donor '10
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St. Jude Donor '10
In the post "Steering Column Parts Help", Avner posted a url from Dr. Rebuild of a disassembled steering column . It's the best and clearest quality diagram that I've ever seen....Copy it to your documents folder and print it.This shows the "upper steering shaft lock plate mounting clip, U-shaped" as F.....Once the locking plate, G , is pushed in enough, whether by hand or tool, Part F can be pried out , allowing the locking plate to be removed.Git 'r done !
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Hopefully this picture may be of some help.
Once you get the C-clip and the locking plate off you will need to pull the turn signal switch out of the housing so that you can access the slot to release the lock cylinder.
Jim
Once you get the C-clip and the locking plate off you will need to pull the turn signal switch out of the housing so that you can access the slot to release the lock cylinder.
Jim
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Racer
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Ok I tried again and it still won't budge.. I still believe this is the wrong place to use the tool... The puller doesn't fit very well onto this area and it is on an angle which makes me nervous. In fact, I can't even see the C-clip.
I'm looking at the piece of metal that the steering wheel itself mounts too, there are 6 holes in it for the screws themselves. There are also 3 screws in the back that are very hard to access because the spring that holds up the thing is in the way. I've tried placing the tool on this but it doesn't fit and won't move..
Jim, those pictures don't look like what I'm trying to take off, so I'm guessing I've made a mistake or haven't gone for enough yet, but I really have no clue on how to go any further. Thank you for the help though.
EDIT: Jim it's the Hub Arm and Contact Arm that I can't get out of the way, but your papers show to take out those screws which looks like fun. At least that's what I'm doing next. Thanks for the papers again Jim.
I'm looking at the piece of metal that the steering wheel itself mounts too, there are 6 holes in it for the screws themselves. There are also 3 screws in the back that are very hard to access because the spring that holds up the thing is in the way. I've tried placing the tool on this but it doesn't fit and won't move..
Jim, those pictures don't look like what I'm trying to take off, so I'm guessing I've made a mistake or haven't gone for enough yet, but I really have no clue on how to go any further. Thank you for the help though.
EDIT: Jim it's the Hub Arm and Contact Arm that I can't get out of the way, but your papers show to take out those screws which looks like fun. At least that's what I'm doing next. Thanks for the papers again Jim.
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Le Mans Master
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Ok I tried again and it still won't budge.. I still believe this is the wrong place to use the tool... The puller doesn't fit very well onto this area and it is on an angle which makes me nervous. In fact, I can't even see the C-clip.
I'm looking at the piece of metal that the steering wheel itself mounts too, there are 6 holes in it for the screws themselves. There are also 3 screws in the back that are very hard to access because the spring that holds up the thing is in the way. I've tried placing the tool on this but it doesn't fit and won't move..
Jim, those pictures don't look like what I'm trying to take off, so I'm guessing I've made a mistake or haven't gone for enough yet, but I really have no clue on how to go any further. Thank you for the help though.
EDIT: Jim it's the Hub Arm and Contact Arm that I can't get out of the way, but your papers show to take out those screws which looks like fun. At least that's what I'm doing next. Thanks for the papers again Jim.
I'm looking at the piece of metal that the steering wheel itself mounts too, there are 6 holes in it for the screws themselves. There are also 3 screws in the back that are very hard to access because the spring that holds up the thing is in the way. I've tried placing the tool on this but it doesn't fit and won't move..
Jim, those pictures don't look like what I'm trying to take off, so I'm guessing I've made a mistake or haven't gone for enough yet, but I really have no clue on how to go any further. Thank you for the help though.
EDIT: Jim it's the Hub Arm and Contact Arm that I can't get out of the way, but your papers show to take out those screws which looks like fun. At least that's what I'm doing next. Thanks for the papers again Jim.
Gary
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Racer
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I was thinking of that but I'm pretty sure now that its the hub arm and Contact arm assemblies. There numbers 11 and 12 . But I'll try to get a pic from my phone for a positive ID.
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Once you pull the hub is there parts under it you need for the horn to work? I think I'm missing parts under the hub.
Le Mans Master
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Using this picture, how far along are you. Use the steering wheel and hub terminology from this paper. Part #12 (Lower) Contact Asm should have a big spring on its underside. The spring isn't shown in this picture.
Jim
Jim