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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Is this what this Forum has become? Almost 4,000 posts on a piece of junk!

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Don't take it apart any further! Unless you have a spare $1000.00 laying around, stop now. Clean up the carb. Get some help if you need it - that's the kind of thing your speed shop buddies will help with. Did it turn over? Stop fartin' around untill you do that. Borrow that breaker bar and GET TO IT! Nothing else matters 'till you know...

The rest of the car is race car material for now. Cheap and easy to get to the point where you can drag race it if you want. Think of all the weight your saving with that missing stuff! Frame looks good...

It's got a tilt/tele column, but all that missing dash stuff is a problem. I'll say it again: make an inventory of whats good, what's not so hot, and what you need to replace. It'll be scary, but you'll know where you stand. Besides, it'll impress your pop that you going about it in a "business like" fashion

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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Is this what this Forum has become? Almost 4,000 posts on a piece of junk!
Looks about the same since I joined... You should have seen mine when I got it, even though I knew what I was doing. As for all the posts, I think it's the whole idea of helping him out with a questionable purchase, before he makes a bunch of (expensive) mistakes.

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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrencher
Looks about the same since I joined... You should have seen mine when I got it, even though I knew what I was doing. As for all the posts, I think it's the whole idea of helping him out with a questionable purchase, before he makes a bunch of (expensive) mistakes.

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Sorry, I cannot agree. It is a piece of junk.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Is this what this Forum has become? Almost 4,000 posts on a piece of junk!
Leave the kid alone. He got it cheap and needs help. Its a good start, he can look for parts at swap meets and places like that. It will be a slow build that eventually he will be able to drive. let him work hard on it and spend his money on fixing it instead of drugs and booze. It will never be a show car but can be an enjoyable driver that he wont have to be nervous about driving.
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Sorry, I cannot agree. It is a piece of junk.
There all pieces of junk.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Leave the kid alone. He got it cheap and needs help.

One man's trash is another man's jewel Paul'74
Stop being an @ss. Nobody's asking you to agree.
And it's 4000 views by the way, the number of post is listed in the top right hand corner, mine is #147
Each his/her own, you seem to be enjoying yourself in the General section:

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Maybe you need to find a car to work on or something....
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Maybe we should get back to the business of asking new, fresh questions like

-how do I get my headlights to go up and down
-what type of oil is best
-how do I bleed the brakes

and other, never-before-asked Qs.
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Is this what this Forum has become? Almost 4,000 posts on a piece of junk!
Come on man, lighten up. You're just making yourself look bad in everone elses eyes. You seemed like a nice guy when we talked about your seats in your post. Maybe you bought your 74 looking great and it does look great. Just some food for thought. What did your 74 look like before you bought it? It had the wrong seats, door panels and the carpet along with everything else looked new in the interior. From what I seen too, your car looks like it had a shiney new paint job. Maybe your car was junk before its restoration.

Are you an authority on junk when it comes to Corvettes? I don't think so. With a few more years under your belt on Corvettes you'll see the light and learn none of them are junk no matter what condition they are.

Come on, be positive about the guys 73. Like 99% of us are, we know what this car can turn into. He needs time, he has a lot of that ahead. He needs money, that will come in time. He has the will to do what alot of us have. He'll get it done and have a fine car in the end. No question about it.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 65747785
Come on man, lighten up. You're just making yourself look bad in everone elses eyes. You seemed like a nice guy when we talked about your seats in your post. Maybe you bought your 74 looking great and it does look great. Just some food for thought. What did your 74 look like before you bought it? It had the wrong seats, door panels and the carpet along with everything else looked new in the interior. From what I seen too, your car looks like it had a shiney new paint job. Maybe your car was junk before its restoration.

Are you an authority on junk when it comes to Corvettes? I don't think so. With a few more years under your belt on Corvettes you'll see the light and learn none of them are junk no matter what condition they are.

Come on, be positive about the guys 73. Like 99% of us are, we know what this car can turn into. He needs time, he has a lot of that ahead. He needs money, that will come in time. He has the will to do what alot of us have. He'll get it done and have a fine car in the end. No question about it.
My words were harsh, perhaps too much so. Am I an authority on junk? No, but I have driven older Corvettes for 25 years and learned many lessons with projects. The costs of restoration can be very dear. Perhaps what I should have said or asked is: is the OP in a position to assume that financial burden given other priorities in life. Or as with many projects, will it sputter and lie fallow. The initial enthusiasm can quickly turn to frustration. That is the message that I should have conveyed.

But I wish him well and hope things work out! He will certainly get my help if I can be of assistance.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
My words were harsh, perhaps too much so. Am I an authority on junk? No, but I have driven older Corvettes for 25 years and learned many lessons with projects. The costs of restoration can be very dear. Perhaps what I should have said or asked is: is the OP in a position to assume that financial burden given other priorities in life. Or as with many projects, will it sputter and lie fallow. The initial enthusiasm can quickly turn to frustration. That is the message that I should have conveyed.

But I wish him well and hope things work out! He will certainly get my help if I can be of assistance.
I'm glad you didn't come back and bash me with what I said. I'm also glad you want to be positive with the guys 73. No doubt about Mr. 73 has a long road ahead. He sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders from what I read him to say.

He's got some things and priorities to sort out with his car. What he really needs is a better plan of attack. I suggested way in the beginning to him get a battery and see if the engine would turn over and start. A little ether might help too. Along with a GM shop manual and even the Hayne's manual. The Hanye's is good for the basics. From what I seen in his pictures that engine would start. I'd get it running in no time if it was here. A lot of us could get it running in no time. You know yourself there's certain procedures, certain checks, one step at a time to get it going. That engine isn't froze up or stuck, it'll go.

Anyway, he shouldn't have taken off valve covers and whatever else he took off. Someone above said STOP. And I hope he takes that advice. There's gotta be someone in his neighborhood that knows how to start this engine. He needs someone who knows about cars to go to his grandma's house to get it started. I wish he lived near me, I'd be there in a minute to help. As all of us wished we could.

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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Alright, I've heard enough. I can't keep my silence any longer!

Did the car ever get registered? People are talking about getting the engine running as the priority, but that is part of step #2 (evaluating the car). The OP needs to get past step #1 (getting a clean and clear title in hand with the proper VIN etc) before that even becomes important. I was 17 once too, and in my excitement I made some mistakes on cars, and the most valuable lesson I learned is to NEVER skip step #1 (I had a kind of bad situation with a 1970 bug once......).

Assuming step #1 is complete, I have a few comments on the preceding:

1. You are getting good advice on getting the motor running. Follow it! It will not hurt the project, and if you decide to sell the car, it will only increase the sales price.

2. I don't use WD-40 for ANYTHING on my Corvette. Freeing up locks is better done with liquid graphite. WD-40 will contaminate any oil in your car (engine, trans, rear) and will not play nicely with brake fluid either. If I saw someone heading to my car with a can of that crap in their hand, I would literally tackle them and forcibly remove it. If it was me, I would throw the WD-40 away.

3. Spiders do not make nests. They make webs, and they don't drag stuff into your car to make the webs.

4. Your odometer is on your speedometer, not your tachometer. The tachometer is the gauge that shows how fast the engine is turning.

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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
My words were harsh, perhaps too much so. Am I an authority on junk? No, but I have driven older Corvettes for 25 years and learned many lessons with projects. The costs of restoration can be very dear. Perhaps what I should have said or asked is: is the OP in a position to assume that financial burden given other priorities in life. Or as with many projects, will it sputter and lie fallow. The initial enthusiasm can quickly turn to frustration. That is the message that I should have conveyed.

But I wish him well and hope things work out! He will certainly get my help if I can be of assistance.


I say straighten out the title issue and it'll be worth more than the $500 investment, sell it and move on.

If the OP had his own place to keep/restore the car and a stable source of income that allows him to meet his financial obligations and restore a car then I'd wish him all the best. But when you have to beg and borrow a ratchet and a set of jack stands to disassemble a car in your grandparents carport taking on a full-blown, long-term restoration project seems like a bad decision.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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But when you have to beg and borrow a ratchet and a set of jack stands to disassemble a car in your grandparents carport taking on a full-blown, long-term restoration project seems like a bad decision.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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[QUOTE=Imo Apita;1571659635]How "fine", as in it's legally yours now?


I think we all screwed up 73 guys head even more with all our comments. I can picture him doing this

73 guy had lots to say in earlier posts. Note in his last one he wasn't as talkative. Maybe he's had enough of us.

He said it all turned out fine. I guess that means, it's legally his. Lets hope so and he can move on.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo Apita
How "fine", as in it's legally yours now?


I think we all screwed up 73 guys head even more with all our comments. I can picture him doing this

73 guy had lots to say in earlier posts. Note in his last one he wasn't as talkative. Maybe he's had enough of us.

He said it all turned out fine. I guess that means, it's legally his. Lets hope so and he can move on.

I don't think we screwed up his head. But now that you mention it.....


Maybe my last post was too long on subtlety. Let's review a few of the more outrageous claims before we address the real issue of spiders making nests in this fellows car:

1. He "knows his chrome bumper vettes", but supposedly buys a '73 while being convinced he is buying a '72.

2. He has lots of fancy and tricked out vehicles, but can't afford a quart of motor oil to squirt into the cylinders to see if he can turn the motor over.

3. The car he bought has only 5 spark plugs. The ones he took out look new to him, although the one we saw was obviously carbonized as well as possibly oil fouled in the picture provided. He also lacks the funds to buy a new set of spark plugs.

4. He purchased a California car with what appears to be a decent frame for $500, and when pressed on it, he also received a Wurlitzer Juke Box as a part of the deal.

5. He thinks a "CHP friend" will get him all straightened out on the title, should there be any problems. Not to mention that I don't know how many 17 year olds have "CHP friends".

Seriously, I could go on here. This has gone on for 8 pages, and let's just say I wouldn't buy this story for $1 if it came with a free beer, and I really like beer. This has all the earmarks of someone jacking with the forum, the smoking gun being a suspiciously missing post on WHAT EVER HAPPENED WITH THE TITLE.

If this fellow is for real, I wish him good luck with his car. But I doubt it.


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My words were harsh, perhaps too much so. Am I an authority on junk? No, but I have driven older Corvettes for 25 years and learned many lessons with projects. The costs of restoration can be very dear. Perhaps what I should have said or asked is: is the OP in a position to assume that financial burden given other priorities in life. Or as with many projects, will it sputter and lie fallow. The initial enthusiasm can quickly turn to frustration. That is the message that I should have conveyed.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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A little touchy aren't we? He's a 17 year old guy with a $500.00 dollar Vette. He'll either finish it or not. Hell, the tilt column is worth what he spent on the car. Lots of worse ways to spend your youth. So good luck Zarifian, enjoy your dream..................
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 01:53 AM
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I just typed a very long message but my browser messed up and erased it and I can't get it back.... SO i guess ill type it again

Sorry guys that I haven't responded in a while I thought everyone had just lost interest, since I haven't been getting any email notifications.

See you guys talk really made me smile though. I have just been busy to get straight As cause ma says she will give me some money on for the vette if I do. School is a priority though.

As we all know I made a terrible mistake and am obviously a young kid stepping into deep water, a true noob at the car game. But you should all know for sure AND DEFINITELY Step one has been completed and it is mine. After lots of back and forths and paper work being shuffled around I am done.

As I was saying though I made a grave mistake, mistaking the front end for a 72. I've never worked on a vette before and have never seen one in pieces like mine either. When the car rolled up I saw some front pieces missing. It came with a big metal piece though that resembled the chrome on the front of the car. I know that 68-72 has both chrome on front and rear and I know how their rear ends look like. The front was off and I assumed that, that big metal piece just bolted onto the front of the car. I was obviously wrong. I hope you can forgive my innocence for that one, but I hope you understand the mistake I made wasn't that bad.

Another thing, I never said or at least think I said that I had other fancy vehicles. I have one very nice truck that my dad gave to me that i take very good care of. And I recently bought a corvette. I may have mentioned how my uncle has a whole array of nice cars and that I try to learn and help him when I have the chance. I bought some Marvel mystery oil and a new set of plugs as soon as I got my pay check after that. Plugs for my truck were much more expensive and cost me 60 bucks for a set, which was what I was expecting.... Turns out both the plugs and the oil were just 18.95. And I'm still waiting on the breaker bar.. which I may not get from a teacher but from a friend instead.

On the number two. There were only five spark plugs on the car when I got it. 3 on the right and 2 on the left. Don't know why. When I said clean I didn't mean brand spanking new. I should have clarified and rather should have said. "Gee they sure do look nice and even. I'm glad none of them look like they are steam cleaned cause that would probably mean a cracked had or a head gasket leak. Thus letting things in steaming the cylinder causing the spark plugs to be shiny." They looked to be in good shape is what I really meant.

Yes it was a fantastic deal, that's why I bought it. That was my last and only 500 dollars.
The Wurlitzer jukebox is my grandmas. Its from the 80s and shes had it for a very long time in the garage. Its been sitting there for a very long time and she wanted me to clean out the things in the garage so I can get this eye sore out of her view. She told me to sell it and I would get to keep half the money. A deal to me
Which btw needs very minor repair, a needle and possibly some arm function...... Its going to be tough and I don't know where to go for help on that one.

Of coarse the CHP officer friend, was really a friend of a friend, and he just said take it to the station and give it to the guy at the desk. To be on the safe side even though the DMV said it fell off the record, I told them I wanted to buy it and to check it out, they helped me out and its clean and old, perhaps the previous owner wanted to make it a drag and just not worry about registration. I really don't know. Long process to recreate a title.

Thanks for the advice on the WD-40 I stopped using that along time ago.

And as for the spiders, I'm sure that if the engine turned a few times and lit up there would be no spider left.

I know the difference on speedo tach my mistake guys, but I couldn't believe it. I was using a paint remover to get ride of the thick layer of absolute filth that has pilled up on the floor pans when i realized I hadn't looked in the cargo area yet. I found them both tach and speedo. I also took all the pieces I had and realized I had a complete car. The millions of pieces I had used to be interior minus the seats. If you lay it all out it actually looks like it. Just truly unusable and completely destroyed. It says 64xxx miles on it. Don't know for sure though.

Most importantly I stopped the dismantlation. I got happy doing it and it become hard to stop. I soon realized the EXTREME importance of organization. It's going to take me days to put back together what I took apart. Even with professional help at least a day. The carb defiantly needs rebuilding though. The valve covers were bolted on when I got it though and i just had to take a few things off. One mistake I made was mistaking the fuel line for some random rubber line. I didn't notice it go to the fuel pump to the carb, and began twisting it off. It bent so easily it took me a while to realize that it wasn't rubber. But that's destroyed. Other than that. I just need new valve cover gaskets, a carb rebuild, test my starter... after I find it when I get a chance to go find, a distributor, and a battery and perhaps some gas. Oh and some spark plug wires and professional guidance would be nice. That's just to get it going.

But once its going I'll just throw in a beach chair and I should be good to go.

Just kidding.

And no offense from it being a piece of junk. I guess I can just see it for what it really is. Most people I show it to at school just say its trash but little they see the potential and the beautiful curves that make this car the corvette stingray.

Thanks again for everything guys, I'll check in more often since the email thing isn't working properly.

Sorry for any errors but I have to get going its late. If I missed anything just let me know.
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And the heads I have are

462624

Which I read in multiple places are poor heads.

I want to build an engine likes this:
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...ine/index.html

With a pretty TKO600 behind it.

I'm an excellent driver, anyone want to sponsor a teen?
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