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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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70 Coupe with 350/300 auto trans.
Wanting to pull the starter to do some cleaning and it's been a long time sence I've messed with a starter.
Other then keeping track of the wiring and the bolts is there anything I need to be aware of such as shims or the position of the flywheel/starter.

The temp sender plug on the P/S head is very tight. I've applied a fare amount of stink with the 3/8" allen wrench as much as I dare. I wire wheeled the paint away from the threads and have soaked it with pb blaster and it's still very tight.
This deal with me removing the temp sender plug is not a must do job. I was just going to install a mechalical temp gauge with a remote gauge under the dash for back up.
I thought of using the freeze spray on the plug but didnt know if I should get that on or next to the head.

One more question, Ok I lied. Three Questions
Any tricks to getting out the old ram horn exhaust studs out of the exhaust manifold?
Any information will be gratefully appreciated.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Knock, Knock, Anybody out there?
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Starter, Keep track of the shims if there is any. Wiring is pretty easy. The flywheel does not matter where it is. Jus tpull it and reinstall.

The plug can be a real nightmare if it is locked in there. Keep trying but you might strip the head out also then you have to drill it out.

The studs to get them out will require HEAT and lots of it. You want to get the manifold area around the stud cherry red and then grasp the stud and work it out. Back and forth a few times and it will come out. Try not to break the stud off flush or you will be drilling that out also.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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While you are cleaning-up the outside of your starter & solenoid, you should go ahead and rebuild both units for "chump change". Put some new motor brushes in the starter and put new contacts in the solenoid. Then after you paint them up, they will work well for another 50K miles. Find a starter/alternator repair shop in your area; they will sell you the parts you need. Otherwise, call around to auto parts stores to find who carries them or who can order them (NAPA is a good bet).

As far as the 'temp sender plug' is concerned, I'm not sure what you are referring to. The temp sender is a brass unit located between cyls. 1 & 3 on the left cylinder head.

As for the last question. Are you kiddin' me?? Sorry, I couldn't help it. Those are a real PITA to remove. Lots of PB Blaster...lots of soak time. Sometimes a torch is required to break the corrosion on the threads loose. Try several rounds of Blaster and soak time first; the torch can do some damage on its own.
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Hi GordonM & 71Vette,
Just came back into check the messages.
I went ahead and pulled the starter = No problem. Also pulled the spark plug wire V shroud = No problem. The bolt that holds the front mount for the plug wire V shield is the motor mount bolt. Is there a torque limit on that bolt.

Gordon,
I'm not going to attempt to remove either the exhaust manifld studs and certianly not the temp sender plug. OK call me chicken. BAK BAK BAK. I dont want to add fuel to the fire if you know what I mean.
The only reason to remove the studs was cause they were a little rusty and wanted to install new studs to make it look nice, but instead buffed off the rust and they look good now.

71 vette, I have a temp sender plug on my head thats located between #6 & #8 plugs. It's right at a 3/4" size plug. I also have one in the same place on my 350 block vert and had set up a mechanical gauge using that plug as well as having my original temp gauge in the location as you had mentioned. I was relieved this summer having that back up gauge in the car and wanted to install new gauge sending unit here in this P/S while I had ez excess to the plug.
Also, thanks for the good advise on the starter/solenoid. I know a guy that rebuilds them and will take it by there tomorrow.
Also changing out the plug wires and the spark plugs as well.
Did I mention that I have my heater core out and the evap and housing out as well? I'm having a blast working on these cars.
Lot's of detail work.
Getting everything ready on this car to install my side pipes.
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The pipe plug between #6 & 8 cylinders was installed by a P.O. That threaded hole in the cylinder head is for a temperature switch for the TCS system [that is likely no longer on your car]. The Transmission Controlled Spark system was meant to cut-off vacuum advance to the distributor in lower transmission ranges once the engine had reached acceptable operating temperatures. That switch had two contacts: one that 'made' connection above 82 deg. F and one that 'broke' connection if the engine was running too hot. Someone removed that switch and installed a 'dummy' pipe plug.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
The pipe plug between #6 & 8 cylinders was installed by a P.O. That threaded hole in the cylinder head is for a temperature switch for the TCS system [that is likely no longer on your car]. The Transmission Controlled Spark system was meant to cut-off vacuum advance to the distributor in lower transmission ranges once the engine had reached acceptable operating temperatures. That switch had two contacts: one that 'made' connection above 82 deg. F and one that 'broke' connection if the engine was running too hot. Someone removed that switch and installed a 'dummy' pipe plug.
Ok, Thanks for that bit of information. I was going to research the TCS system for my year car which you are correct it's not on nor hooked up or anywhere in site.
I'm going to call the second owner again in the near future and see if he still has the original parts. Last year he told me he still has a few parts for the car and would gather them up to send to me. I'll see if I can pester him into doing that.
Thanks again.
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