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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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on a 74 on the firewall on the left side there is a silver box with a black **** sticking out of it...
the car runs and starts great then all of a sudden it will not start, makes a sound like a dead battery, alternator, starter and battery are new.
is the silver box a relay of sorts that should be wired around - could that be affecting the starting?
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Seat belt interlock system re-set. No seat belt connected, no start. A 1974 feature only.
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It sounds like your referring to the switch thats snapped into the orange plastic electrical connector on the firewall.

74 and early 75 (prior to Jan) cars had a starter interrupt system that prevented the car from being started if someone was sitting in the seats and the seat belt was not buckled. This was a Federal safety law to get people to wear seat belts. The button on the firewall was an override to use if the system failed to work properly, which was fairly common. Most people dissabled the system shortly after purchasing the cars. The Goverment gave up on the system and repealed the law for 1975.

If the car failed to start after buckling your seat belt, you were supposed to be able to get out, open the hood and push the button to override the system. The car was then supposed to start.

I haven't owned a car that that was functioning on since 1974. I don't recall exactly what happened when the system failed, but I think that nothing happened when the key was turned. I don't remember getting the click, click like a dead battery causes, but I may be wrong. Your problem may be with the interupt, but if it is, you have one of the few 1974 cars left in the world that it hasn't been bypassed on!
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all the original wires are intact...seatbelts have been replaced...
the weird thing is that it will start fine 20 times then all of a sudden will not start and act like a dead battery. I guess I need to try to figure out how to by pass it to at least rule it out.
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any one have any idea how to by pass the Seat belt interlock system?
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any one have any idea how to by pass the Seat belt interlock system?
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Someone did it to my 1974 before I bought the car. And there is a link to how it was done somewhere here in the archives. My re-set unit is still hooked up but the seat weight sensors are disconnected. I made sure of that when I rebuilt my seats. That may be enough. The pic shows the sensor. Just disconnect it.

It's a strange system that had the ignition disabled when 40lbs of groceries were put on the passenger seat. You had to "buckle them up." Thankfully it only lasted from 1974 and early into 1975. The US congress repealed that law very quickly.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4080851AAIzeKm


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well ...when it does start ...I can just reach in the window and turn the key and it starts so I guess its already disabled!
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Originally Posted by BIGJIM13
well ...when it does start ...I can just reach in the window and turn the key and it starts so I guess its already disabled!
Not necessarily. It's your weight on the seat that disables the system. Just reaching in through the window puts no weight on the seat sensor.
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