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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Back in the early 80's, I parked my '70 coupe when the binders went bad and being in my early 20's, didn't have the $$$$ to repair. After 25 plus years sleeping in the garage, I have her among the living again, but still needing binders. I am looking to replace the calipers, and most likely other components. She is a 454 4-speed, and other than lighting up a tire occasionally, will be driven just cruising around, so while looking to upgrade over factory, not really needing ultra high performance. Anybody have any suggestions as to what my options are?
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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There's very little or nothing to be gained by going beyond OEM stuff.

Others will disagree.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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Unless you're racing or simply like bling there's nothing to be gained by going beyond the stock design. It's an excellent design, but can be considered compromised by using all cast iron parts that can rust. But...GM was concerned with cost and the fact that they didn't expect the cars to last 40+ years.

Use oe spec parts...upgraded to stainless steel sleeves and o-ring pistons and you'll be good to go. Get Delco calipers...some reproduction calipers may be suspect in quality control according to some.

Also...replace all the rubber hoses, no matter how good they might look.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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that sounds like what I'm looking for. Any suggestions as to possible sources? I some of the obvious such as Eckler's and Corvette Central, but thought maybe someone had good experience with a lesser known company, such as a sponsor here on the forum?
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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I went for the red Wilwood D8-4 calipers, they are a direct replacement for the stock calipers but are made of aluminum and stainless steel pistons. Much lighter than stock and in my opinion better overall design with today's technology. Kit came with brake pads and stainless steel flex lines. Not much more money than replacement OEM calipers. These should last a long time without any problems.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by taz7nads
that sounds like what I'm looking for. Any suggestions as to possible sources? I some of the obvious such as Eckler's and Corvette Central, but thought maybe someone had good experience with a lesser known company, such as a sponsor here on the forum?
There's dozens of retail suppliers all competing in a relatively narrow market. Go with a name brand that will stand behind their product.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Default One Corvette .... so many brake jobs!

Here is my experience:

I bought a nice standard '71 BB that had been little used. I put OEM stock type replacement brakes from VBP and stock type discs with organic pads; but still used the silicone brake fluid..... the car stopped pretty good and the job was easy. Well other than doing the Parking brakes without pulling the spindle .... but I did that too!!

Then I needed some bling.... I "upgraded" to some drilled and slotted discs and replaced some hard line. No difference!! Of course!

Then ... I wanted still more as the brakes just we're right ... or maybe good enough. I went with a Wilwood set up from Corvette Engineering. Its cool looking, light weight, I got better discs again ... but to be honest I really can't say the braking is improved.

I have now added a hydraboost ..... I have yet to test the set up.

If it was a pure street car and I didn't care too much .. I would go a VBP stock set up and a nice set of power slots. I also like the OEM type Wilwoods in Alum. Add good DOT 4 and organics and it should be very very good for the street.

I use really like messing with my brakes ... sad I guess.

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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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I would use Stainless Steel Sleeved OEM calipers with O-ring seals
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Originally Posted by carbster09
Then ... I wanted still more as the brakes just we're right ... or maybe good enough. I went with a Wilwood set up from Corvette Engineering. Its cool looking, light weight, I got better discs again ... but to be honest I really can't say the braking is improved.

I have now added a hydraboost ..... I have yet to test the set up.
Neither of these will make a significant change in brake performance if you're looking for improved or shorter stopping distances. The parts size and spec remain the same. The Wilwoods being a copy of the oe iron part also fit the same size pistons. The hydraboost may increase pressure but of course you could do that simply by pushing harder on the pedal.

The only two items not mentioned that could alter true brake performance are a move to a more aggressive pad compound- which will only increase the bite but not necessarily make for shorter distances and the tires. Tires are the key to shorter stops seeing that they are the contact to the road. More pressure or even race pads will remain limited by the torque the tire can achieve.

Nonetheless....the changes above will enhance the feel and responsiveness of the system as a whole and that's a good thing too.
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advance auto and auto zone have factory calibers that have lifetime warranty.nothing fancy ,but they are a fair price and if you have a problem they will replace them .you also can buy light weight calibers from several vendors.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by terry82
advance auto and auto zone have factory calibers that have lifetime warranty.nothing fancy ,but they are a fair price and if you have a problem they will replace them .you also can buy light weight calibers from several vendors.
Lifetime warranty......what do they think lifetime of their calipers is?
I did buy one of these and they are a good rebuilt caliper at a good price,I took it apart right after buying it to change to O ring piston. I had one non stainless sleeved caliper and this fixed the problem.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteC3
I would use Stainless Steel Sleeved OEM calipers with O-ring seals
Best of both worlds. Good performance and less chance of leaking.



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