Power Steering Valve Question
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Racer
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From: Franksville Wisconsin
Power Steering Valve Question
Hi I have a freind with a '71 C3 that I am helping with some repairs.
He complains about loose steering, so I take a look it has new A-arm bushings,power steering ram,tierod ends,idler arm etc...and a newer looking power steering valve. The ball stud on the valve has lots of slop in it. I say its shot....he talks to someone he knows that claims it is normal and will go away when eninge is running and has pressure on it. Is this correct? This sounds insane to me. That is the only play I can find anywhere. Steering box is good and snug too.
He complains about loose steering, so I take a look it has new A-arm bushings,power steering ram,tierod ends,idler arm etc...and a newer looking power steering valve. The ball stud on the valve has lots of slop in it. I say its shot....he talks to someone he knows that claims it is normal and will go away when eninge is running and has pressure on it. Is this correct? This sounds insane to me. That is the only play I can find anywhere. Steering box is good and snug too.
Le Mans Master
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sounds like the worm and sector needs adjustment or the steering box is dead....plenty of slop in a power steer car with the engine off.....grab the rag joint (engine off) and see how much play you have before the pittman arm starts to move...should be minimal..good luck
Le Mans Master
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Hi I have a freind with a '71 C3 that I am helping with some repairs.
he talks to someone he knows that claims it is normal and will go away when eninge is running and has pressure on it. Is this correct? This sounds insane to me. That is the only play I can find anywhere. Steering box is good and snug too.
he talks to someone he knows that claims it is normal and will go away when eninge is running and has pressure on it. Is this correct? This sounds insane to me. That is the only play I can find anywhere. Steering box is good and snug too.
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Racer
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Steering box is full of grease we topped it off and it has minimal play. If the preload screw is tightened 1/2 turn in it starts to bind so we backed it off some. Seemed to be aligned with colmn.
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Racer
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I was just web browsing and stumbled on mid america motorworks site tech sheet.It shows a ball stud adjusting nut #20 accessable by removing the valve head.
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/602456.pdf
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/602456.pdf
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That 'slop' in the ball stud [P/S control valve] is how the unit senses the steering input need. There is a short coil spring next to the ball stud mechanism which allows that movement. If that movement wasn't allowed, the P/S wouldn't know which way to turn.
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I was just web browsing and stumbled on mid america motorworks site tech sheet.It shows a ball stud adjusting nut #20 accessable by removing the valve head.
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/602456.pdf
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/602456.pdf
Rick B.
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To align box and column, turn wheel all the way to the left or right. Count the number of turns to turn to opposite side. Turn wheel half the total distance. this should center the steering gear. At this point check alignment to steering column. The bolt on the rag joint on the steering column should be pointing straight down. Check toe-in and see if it is still correct.
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Sloppy steering is NOT normal. Best learn how the PS control valve works, then you'll understand why the free play is there.
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Racer
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Actually I rebuilt a few of these and understand how they work. Pretty cude actually.I plan on removing the valve head and reset the ball stud preload. 1/4" movement seems like too much to me. I just put one on my '81 and it has minimal movement about 1/8 total and works great!
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Racer
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The valve on my 1981 was purchased in rebuilt condition. It was cheaper that way $80 It needed ball kit and seal kit, so I went that way. The few I rebuilt worked great. The steering felt slightly tighter, but gorked great.