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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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I had a very bad experience with the GM red antifreeze. It all caked up at the rad cap and thermostat so I went out and bought a case of the green stuff. Now years later I'm out of green antifreeze and I only see the orange stuff for sale
So what are you guys using??? I'm starting a heater core adventure on my 82 Crossfire, so while I'm there I plan on replacing heater hose, thermostat, water pump and maybe the metal heater lines that run along side the block if I can get them
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I'm still using the green stuff in my old Vettes. 50/50 mixture with distilled water. It's still available at Car Quest in my area. The Dex-Cool can't be mixed with it as it turns to a gel.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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I use the prestone all makes all models stuff.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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I'm still using the green stuff in my old Vettes. ...
Got it at Auto Zone the last time.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Pretty hard to go by color these days, they have every color under the rainbow.

Not much demand for the old stuff anymore with most consumers so most places don't carry the it any longer, but if having difficulty finding it, try a truck supplier.

I stopped jumping thru hoops finding it and have changed to the Zerox hybrid or the Prestone all makes, just not Dexcool.

I change it every year, so there is no worry about the SCA's.

BTW, the premixed 50/50 uses deinonized water, a little more pure than distilled.
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I guess Prestone all makes all models will be the pick. I see it everywhere and you guys don't sound like you're having any problems with it. Thanks!
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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The Orange Stuff ( DexCool ) ruined a lot of V6s, don't know what it does to V8s. I think there was a service bullentin on DexCool !
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The Orange Stuff ( DexCool ) ruined a lot of V6s, don't know what it does to V8s. I think there was a service bullentin on DexCool !
Dexcool works great in a sealed environment, If you have a leak or prolonged exposure to air is when it congeals to mud. I now use prestone yellow, all makes, all models.
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I run prestone's all makes and model on both the camaro and the corvette, never had any problems with it.
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Ethelyn Glycol here, 100% mix, not 50-50, I can add it as I like then...and don't pay for water....which I have never paid the slightest attention to....well water, city water, any kind....just dump with EGly and call it a day....been that way for some 50 years now...never a issue...brass, aluminum, iron no matter....

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Prestone Extended Life Green stuff. Buy it at Walmart.

Wont coagulate with any residual Dex-Cool.

Ive dont several previously Dex-cool'd cars with this with great success. Lots of distilled water flushing and mix the Prestone with distilled water for 50/50 mix once finished.

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Ethelyn Glycol here, 100% mix, not 50-50, I can add it as I like then...and don't pay for water....which I have never paid the slightest attention to....well water, city water, any kind....just dump with EGly and call it a day....been that way for some 50 years now...never a issue...brass, aluminum, iron no matter....

Any water cooled engine needs a 50/50 mix of coolant and water. Many dont know this but water cools better than coolant... Therefore the best for street is 50/50, "race", water with some sort of anti corrosive. This among other cooling info allowed me to run a almost 700 HP smallblock on a v6 radiator
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Originally Posted by forvicjr
Any water cooled engine needs a 50/50 mix of coolant and water. Many dont know this but water cools better than coolant... Therefore the best for street is 50/50, "race", water with some sort of anti corrosive. This among other cooling info allowed me to run a almost 700 HP smallblock on a v6 radiator
Straight water is the best if you're in a climate that allows it.
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I thank Dexcool for bringing many many dollars into my shops from cooling system repairs over the years. It was allmost as good as neon did for me with thier head gaskets. I saw what dexcool was all about and I still left that crap in my new 99 S-10 thinking I would flush it every 30,000 instead of the 100,000 GM #.. So after flushing the system with a good machine at 30, 60, 90k.. I now at 115k on the truck have a leaking heater core, a leaking intake gasket and res tank that looks like mud in it.. I guess with cars evolving its allways gonna be something.. oh I forgot astro van idler arms..
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Originally Posted by 71coupe454
I thank Dexcool for bringing many many dollars into my shops from cooling system repairs over the years. It was allmost as good as neon did for me with thier head gaskets. I saw what dexcool was all about and I still left that crap in my new 99 S-10 thinking I would flush it every 30,000 instead of the 100,000 GM #.. So after flushing the system with a good machine at 30, 60, 90k.. I now at 115k on the truck have a leaking heater core, a leaking intake gasket and res tank that looks like mud in it.. I guess with cars evolving its allways gonna be something.. oh I forgot astro van idler arms..
I feel your pain, I own a 96 vortec s-10 and that dex cool is crap.The intake as any chevy owner knows is not an if it will leak, it when its gonna start! Mine has leaked since 114000. It now has 559000 miles and several GM stop leak tablets later,and its still leaking! Its a cable service truck I own and work out of, and theres no time to repair it!!
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"Race" cars run plain water because they aren't allowed to run anti-freeze. The race tracks don't want to have slick-a@@ stuff all over the track after a wreck. The 50/50 mix is only because that is the optimum mix for the lowest freezing temp for a water/antifreeze mixture. Any other percentage mix will work, but the freezing temperature of the mix and the heat transfer properties will be somewhat different.
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I run prestone's all makes and model on both the camaro and the corvette, never had any problems with it.
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I recently had a weird experience with coolant. I just installed my freshly built 496", freshly cleaned/rodded oem radiator and used Peak brand pre-mixed 50/50 coolant. I put in the 6-7 gals it takes to fill the system and drive it about 100 miles within a couple weekends. Then I had to drain the coolant out to repair a radiator leak that I inflicted with the shroud installation. Upon draining the coolant, it was all brown and chitty looking...I pulled the drain plugs out of the block out of curiousity and on one side the water wouldn't even drain out until I ran a screwdriver into the hole to break up the blockage..

I don't know what the hell happend but this motor was completely clean inside as was the radiator at the time of the coolant install. The pump/hoses/heater core etc was all brand new. I drained it all out and switched to Prestone pre-mixed 50/50 and it seems like it is staying clean. Only have about 50 miles on it though. I have no idea what happened but needless to say I won't be using Peak antifreeze or pre mix ever again.

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This is a really good article

http://www.dewitts.com/download/cooling.pdf

Last edited by Droptop-Rob; Dec 16, 2009 at 10:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by mrvette
Ethelyn Glycol here, 100% mix, not 50-50, I can add it as I like then...and don't pay for water....which I have never paid the slightest attention to....well water, city water, any kind....just dump with EGly and call it a day....been that way for some 50 years now...never a issue...brass, aluminum, iron no matter....

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF6/680.html

It freezes 8 degrees above zero.
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